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Also, what’s the alternative being promoted? If responding to, debunking, and rebuking the lies of Trump/Vance is “pointing fingers” and adding to negative discourse, then are they suggesting to just shut up about it and let the lies go unchecked? How does that serve anyone’s interest?

Feels like normative bias and the naive belief that Trump can’t cause any real damage and everything will be fine in the end.

“I have the concept of a plan” is fine tho.

She should have just said that she has the concept of a plan and then pivoted to whatever single issue she feels is polling well for her 🙄

Vaginia.

That’s some cringy shit.

Why on Earth would you say that, unless you think your opinion is important and valid and worthy of being heard? Yet you out here arguing other people’s opinions aren’t. Wow, great mind. Cry about strawmen a bit more.

She’s not allowed to or qualified to have an opinion according to you?

She doesn’t decide who they vote for.

Fox News poll, right after the debate.

Boomertown.

Disengaged voters aren’t watching the debate

They won’t watch, but the debate can attract the attention of people who don’t ordinarily think about politics but start to realize there’s an election coming up. It’s a broad group that I don’t think you can generalize as broadly as you are (unless you’re using the term “disengaged” to describe only the “refuse to participate in any way” camp).

Similarly, undecided is more likely to describe people who haven’t decided if they will vote or not - either side winning and otherwise forfeited vote is a good thing for their campaign. But I also think it’s incorrect to assume there’s people not still on the fence about the candidate - plenty of “I like Harris but I am not sure if she’s good for the economy” voters, etc.

Agree, however if debates do have any impact on an election (Biden dropping out being an exception) it’s to sway disengaged and swing voters. So Trump just plays to his base I think that would qualify as a loss for him.

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Agree 100%

In Trump terms, left = anyone he disagrees with.

Explains why he was so antagonistic toward the ABC reporter at the National Association of Black Journalists. As bad as that makes him look outside of the MAGA bubble, it lets him make the pathetic argument that ABC was mean to him so he won’t go debate there. His fragile little ego is more important to him than winning the election. Good news for democracy lovers.

Also: left leaning versus right wing mouthpiece. ABC v Fox doesn’t seem like a fair comparison.

“This former AG, Senator, and VP has no idea how to run this country!” - Conservative Clowns everywhere.

Nah, vapid.

By all means, continue to be vapid.

You’re not obliged to respond if you don’t have anything meaningful or interesting to add to this discussion.

Just because you’re bad at it doesn’t mean you’re not doing it.