Your only wrong to present Biden as a forgone conclusion.

This is all unprecedented, no? The incumbent was always the presumptive nominee. This incumbent is about as healthy as a mallard with a cold. That instills confidence (/s). I really don’t like Joe Biden. If I’m being honest, I don’t care for any of them. But we work with what we got.

This is the false premise. You are just fucking wrong on this point along with the rest of Blue Maga. Biden can and will be made to step down. A viable alternative doesn’t enter the conversation until Biden is off the stage and if you keep fucking insisting we don’t have other options, you are basically insisting we get Trump.

This narrative thats been being forced, that you are forcing right now, is why we’re in this fucked position. Because of an uncritical, naive, stupendously stupid support for a candidate who can-not win. You plugging your nose doesn’t change the fact that Biden can’t win. Promoting him as if he’s the only option when he never has been the only option is fundamental to why democrats are losing this election as bad a the y currently are.

You need to come to grips with the fact that Biden can’t win this, and that are only option is to pressure him out and seek an alternative at the convention. Pretending we can just “suck it up” and vote Biden is precisely fucking why we are losing right now. Come to grips with a fact base reality ffs.

Or alternatively by insisting on running a candidate that is polling in the low 30’s, its you, in your “Blue Maga” thinking, thats the problem.

Its not this false dilemma and a departure from a fact based reality that you’ve convinced yourself the situation to be. We can pursue other candidates; it doesn’t hurt the party to do so, it helps them, and we can still win this: just not with Joe Biden.

Your denial-ism around the reality of the environment around Joe Biden, has been and continues to be the singularly most destructive thing to the Democrats chances electorally. You and your thinking aren’t just a part of the problem: they’re the entire problem.

You should leave all leftist and democratic spaces and join the other cult members in the Donald camp, because thats about where you are at.

Its funny cus’ your the one being wooshed here.

ITs a false dillema dude.

Kamala, Michelle Obama, as you said, Jon Stewart.

The bench is deep with better options and we haven’t had a convention.

You can make that same argument about supporting a candidate like Biden, who has demonstrated an inability to win in this election cycle.

Did you catch the Friday interview with Biden?

Reaction? Did you think it helped or hurt?

I linked to the first article that wasn’t paywalled.

I don’t link to WAPO because of its paywall.

Yeah I want a Democrat to win the election and Biden has a less than 1 in 20 shot of doing that.

The only path to stopping Trump is replacing Biden. Continuing to promote Biden as a candidate is you basically asking for project 2025 to become a reality. And as you can see, there are a lot of idiots to push back on who think a guy polling in the low thirties can make it happen.

He’s electable, by far.

But he has no delegates, so its irrelevant.

You are living in a delusional fantasy. Biden’s polling was CATASTROPHIC before the debate. Why?

Because Biden split the party in how he has handled Gaza.

Its unbelievable the amount of delusion people around here try and persist with.

Bro he’ s never had any and you’re lying to yourself to said he had any.

At no point in the past 500 days has he been in a position to even be competitive in this election.

Pretending that this guy has a chance when every iota of evidence we have says he’s going to lose is basically the equivalent of voting for Trump.

why would god off Biden but not Trump?

Because he’s a petty, spiteful, vengeful ghost who could have made a universe free from suffering and chose not to.

The Lord Almighty is not coming down

The year is young Papa Joe.

I’m about 20 minutes in.

This is like, its almost more painful than the debate. This entire section on his polling is like… I can’t even speak to how beyond the pale this is.

I think this interview hurt him. He not only is doubling down on his clearly floundering campaign, but very very detached from the political reality around him.

I don’t know he pulls out of this tailspin if every time he gets in front of a camera he makes the situation worse.

Stephanopoulos: Would you undergo an independent medical evaluation that included cognitive tests

Biden: I undergo that every day.

Yea but are you passing?

the cannabis consume is tested by an independent laboratory

the president should be held to the same standards

Instructions unclear. It sounds like you just wrote a sequel to “How High”.

A smart move on Biden’s part.

I agree. You don’t concede things like this. And honestly until last Thursday, it wasn’t Biden’s mental faculties that had him in the doghouse, it was his political ones.

Please do.