!superbowl@lemmy.world

I’ve checked our server logs and it seems to have been an issue with a timeout.

This might be something that is fixed once we update to a newer Lemmy version that performs metadata processing in the background instead of while receiving the post.

lemmy does not track post views, especially not via federation.

you could try bringing it up at !lemmy_support@lemmy.ml but i wouldn’t count on this becoming a feature.

technically, posts can be marked as viewed if this is not disabled by the user, which would be the closest thing possible, but there is also no time decay on that. this information is limited to users on the local instance, so this wouldn’t be that representative unless used on one of the larger instances.

there is no defederation from “the piracy instance”. one or more communities have been removed from being accessible through lemmy.world due to piracy content, but the instance is not defederated. this means that other communities on that instance are still accessible and all users on that instance can still freely interact with lemmy.world communities and users.

I’m personally trying to stay out of (especially US) politics discussions as much as I can, as I don’t think there’s much to gain there for me anyway while potentially costing a lot of time and energy. I’m not from US, so most of that stuff isn’t anything that is relevant/influenceable for me anyway.

I haven’t actively looked whether that person has been posting content that is violating our instance rules, that is simply not a reasonable task to do without leads pointing out specific cases. Without supporting their statements, unless they’re violating instance rules we’re generally trying to allow people to communicate their thoughts here without applying political bias to rule enforcement, at least on instance admin level. I can’t speak for community moderators, but I’m sure that there are communities with bias in rule enforcement or even rules themselves in both directions. If LW users or users in LW communities are violating LW instance rules, we recommend reporting them with references directly to admins, which will bypass community moderators, so our admin team can review it.

I’m also not directly involved in how the bot is used/discussed, but I did have a look at votes targeting the account in the past and there were several accounts heavily involved in automated or at least not legitimate votes, which on its own is generally also a violation of our ToS and would usually lead to a ban. Votes are therefore not really something that can reasonably considered at face value as peoples opinion either, as they’re skewed by those who abuse the system.

The leading case for this is an account with zero posts or comments, that downvoted more than 8k comments by the bot, 98.5% of all its comments. This is not legitimate voting behavior. This user does have other voting activity that is at least not immediately obviously abusive, but their downvotes on the bot comments are about 65% of their total comment votes since the MBFC bot account was created.

Following that, I see another user that downvoted the bot about 6.5k times, almost 80% of the bot’s comments, which makes up around 40% of their comment votes since the MBFC bot account was created.

Interestingly there are also a few cases where people have massively upvoted the comments, which is the case for 3 out of the 13 accounts that have more than 1k total comment votes for the MBFC bot each.

Out of the currently 101k total votes for the bot, 23% were upvotes, 77% downvotes.
Out of the currently 101k total votes for the bot, 41% were created by those 13 users with more than 1k votes each.
Out of the currently 101k total votes for the bot, 51% were created by 28 users with more than 500 votes each.

I can’t say what a reasonable cutoff might be for gauging vocal minority vs representative user base.

If I exclude the top 13 voters with more than 1k votes each, this leaves 59.5k votes, which is 28% upvotes and 72% downvotes.
If I exclude the top 28 voters with more than 500 votes each, this leaves 49.3k votes which is 31% upvotes and 69% downvotes.

I’ve excluded the bots own automatic votes that Lemmy adds when creating a comment from these calculations.

I don’t know how people typically vote on bots they like, for me I wouldn’t usually vote on automoderator-style bot posts, it’s not like anyone really gains or loses anything from that anyway.

Anyway, this is really just some additional data to think about.

fyi @Blaze@feddit.org @Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com

edit: typos/missing letters

4th place across all blocks by LW users.

the 3 ahead of it are 2 nsfw posters and a rather active user with political views not shared by most other users. note that 286 is just the overlap of weekly active users in the community that have blocked the account, not the total number of blocks.

using Lemmy 0.19.5 logic for counting local active weekly users, which includes all non-bot users that posted, commented or voted in the community, the number is about 3.15k. percentage wise, using the same calculation as in my other comment, the overlap with users that blocked the bot is at around 9.1% with 286 users blocking it. looking at active monthly users, this changes the numbers to about 5.7k active local users with 443 blocking it, which is about 7.7%.

for remote users these metrics cannot be pulled, as blocks are only visible to the blocking users instance.

fyi @Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com

there is no money involved for lemmy.world.

we are not paying for access to the MBFC database, they provide this for us free of charge, and we also don’t receive any money from MBFC.

the community PAYS for the admins

this is straight up wrong, or at the very least misleading. LW/FHF admins receive zero money from any of the donations, all time spent is volunteered.

288 of local users that are also subscribed to !world@lemmy.world blocked the bot, which is about 1.2%.

when it comes to the topic of lying, it seems more like a misunderstanding from what i’ve heard after these comments were written.

we aren’t holding back on lemmy updates due to sublinks.

a moderator on another instance than the community instance

that was a logic flaw for the selection of which reports are considered for alerting. a fix is currently being deployed, but you should be good for the next 2 days anyway.

yes, but for admins, at least on LW scale, this isn’t something that is well usable for admins with built-in tools.

community mods and instance admins can see reports on the instance that reports are sent to, and they are currently only sent to the reporters instance, the community instance, and the reported users instance. community mods on another instance won’t see the reports.

you may have been thinking of https://poliverso.org/objects/0477a01e-1166-c773-5a67-70e129601762, which was neither lemmy devs, mastodon devs nor lemmy.world admins

the bot has been marked as bot since the very beginning and is also clearly marked as bot in the screenshot as @blackn1ght@feddit.uk already mentioned.

i also just checked on db0 in case there was some federation issue that would have the account not be marked as bot over there and it’s also clearly marked as bot when viewed on db0.

the bot has been marked as bot since the very beginning and is also clearly marked as bot in the screenshot, so your comment does not apply here.

2FA has been restored for all LW users that had it enabled before and didn’t reactivate it on their own since.

There will be an announcement posted later on explaining what happened.

edit: announcement is out: https://lemmy.world/post/18503967

this is a separate issue unrelated to the 0.19 update.

this was not a Lemmy bug.

Hi,

this was unfortunately an error on our end.

Please bear with us while we work on resolving this situation.