I agree, not all natural products are innocuous but still isn’t the point that organic IS less awful? I’m thinking especially regarding biodiversity and conditions in which the animals live (at least in France, it is the label with the strictest standards for animal “welfare”). I get that it’s not perfect but I don’t think we should wait to have the perfect system to get rid of some of the absolutely shitty parts in the current system.

Is it more expensive? To the customer yes. For real, once you include environmental benefits, health costs from cancers etc and take into account the fact that organic farmers usually receive zero help from governments (I’m considering the french case here), you realise that the price gap is not as big as you think and that a major part of it is because pesticides have made agriculture unnaturally “cheap” (i.e. with a lot of invisible costs).

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Tough, though and thorough were a major step for me back in the days…I never knew which one was which nor how to spell them, I felt so frustrated!

I agree with @RedditIsDeddit , it does not help. It may even make things worse. All this meme does is make me feel misunderstood and despised by others (While some of them don’t even understand what I actually go through). Tobacco is a terrible addiction. I quited for two years but fell again when I broke up with my ex. During those two years I dreamt of smoking at least once a week and gained 15kg. I grew up in France in the 90s and then the country did a pretty shitty job protecting kids (I started buying cigarettes for myself at 14 and it was easy because the tobacco shop owner didn’t bat an eye). I think the solution is prevention and children’s protection (by preventing access) to ensure that they don’t start. For those who already smoke the best is kind support not guilt and disdain. (And total bans don’t help either, we just feel left out when the government who now bans us from every place and treats us like awful weak-willed bastards initially incitated us to smoke two decades ago with adds and easy access).

XD fair enough ! Tbh I was just trying to see if this could be made into a joke. I’ve never had a proper taco (except maybe once, but I was drunk as hell and it was a very poorly made imitation that I wouldn’t call a taco) so I wouldn’t know what to eat it with. Please enlighten me, what kind of sauce do people put on tacos (if any)?

IMO, the end of the post’s title should be “ketchup or mayo ?”

I was actually joining the chat to write that things are not that different in biology. I have a PhD and 7 years of postdocs behind me. Over the years I have :

• been denied a management position because “the team was only men, who wouldn’t listen to me” (spoiler alert, they put an incompetent guy in charge who screwed up massively and I ended up taking over, successfully).
• had a boss who systematically doubted my opinion (while he was not a specialist of the topic) but listened to the very same argument from a male colleague
• had male Masters students who could speak uninterrupted during meetings when I couldn’t
• got denied a tenure position for a guy with the same profile (literally the same topic and same labs) but much less experience than mine (like 5 years younger) This last one broke me, I ended up quitting academia

Thanks for sharing your experience, I’ll keep that in mind!

Omg you’re making me freak out. I had to quit academia a year and a half ago (after 7 years of postdocs) and, after a bad experience in the private sector (techy start up bitch who was just plain insane), I’ve been struggling for 10 months to find a new path and a job…and I’m still nowhere near finding something I’m afraid.

I would love to see a massive boycott of MacDonald everywhere (at least in the US), I am surprised that this hasn’t come up somewhere online yet. That would be powerful signal IMO