It’s messaging.

Trump has proven this for 3 straight elections, and the Dems need to face reality and play the fucking game.

The average voter doesn’t want to be told they’re racist or sexist. They don’t want to hear that the other guy is a Nazi or a fascist. Even if all that is true.

All they want to hear is “Don’t worry, I’m gonna take care of shit”. The economy. Jobs. Immigration. Foreign competition. The usual shit. “We’re going to fix it, and the other guy ain’t”.

That’s what resonates about the MAGA slogan… The populace wants to believe someone’s fixing shit and they can not worry about it.

The Dems need to embrace and pound the fuck out of that messaging, and they can do it without the racist, sexist, xenophobic language the right uses

1. Messaging to appeal to the low-information voters that want to hear we’re gonna kick ass. Get them excited and out to the voting booth

2. Keep those masses happy by constantly saying you’re fixing it and point to some piddly bullshit. Yell it from the rooftops, insist you’re winning

3. Keep the base happy by actually governing. But keep that shit quiet, except when talking to the big donors

Trump has proven this approach works. The average American voter isn’t into policy details, they just want to feel like someone’s doing something. The Dems need to wake up and act accordingly

Yeah, OK, the US isn’t the most economically and militarily powerful country, and by extension, politically powerful🙄

To say otherwise makes you not serious

As does bringing the metric system into the argument

Fascism needs a strong leader - authoritarianism is at the core of fascism. Of course the rank and file don’t go away, but without a strong leader, they lose their power.

Serious question: Referring back to the points I made in my previous post, who is going to effectively step into the fascism void in the US when Trump is gone?

Vance? He’s a clown and isn’t a true believer in Trumpism

DeSantis? Another clown

Ken Paxton? He’s evil enough but not sure he has the charisma to inspire the MAGAts

Trump’s base is comprised of sniveling sycophants who don’t have the personality, influence, or will to actually try and take over

Sure, but I was specifically talking about the US.

That said, when the US has a potential leader embracing fascism/authoritarianism, it creates an opportunity for the growth of those political ideologies across the world.

Keeping Trump out of office and believers in democracy in office will help blunt the power and growth of fascism across the globe. It’s not the sole solution, but it’s quite important that the most powerful country in the world not elect fascists.

While I generally agree with what you said, I’m not convinced Trumpism doesn’t die or at least go back into its hole when he goes away.

Trumpism is really nothing more than a power grab by an authoritarian who uses white nationalism rhetoric to enthrall the baser segment of society and amass a voting base to maintain power long enough to undermine democracy.

Trump could die tomorrow, and there’s a dozen wannabe authoritarians that would try to fill that void and run on Trumpism.

I’m not convinced there’s any MAGAts out there than can inspire the base, get the MAGAts in Congress to coalesce behind them, and solidify the financial support of the Musks, Thiels, etc of the oligarchy.

I’m not following what point you’re trying to make here.

Kamala Harris’ team is going to make known any and all Republicans who support her in an effort to try and convince Independents and Republicans who don’t like Trump to get out on Election Day and vote for her, particularly in swing states. That’s just smart politicking to try and beat Trump.

I would guess the average Democratic voter hates Dick Cheney but understands that when people as awful as Liz or Dick Cheney actually endorse Harris publicly, it is a clear indication just how dangerousTrump and MAGA really are.

Ona daily basis, Trump and Vance make no attempt to hide their hatred of women, drag queens, gays, lwsnians, immigrants, people of color, etc. While Harris and the Dems defend those groups publicly, legally and politically.

Whether the Left is perfect or not is not the point. MAGA would like to see Chappel Roan censored, disempowered, and possibly imprisoned.

I’m not calling Chapell a centrist, I’m saying she being foolish and failing to exercise her influence. She couldn’t instead say “I don’t disagree with Harris on A, B, C, but I support her candidacy because of basic human rights, and here’s what I would like her to commit to”.

Instead, she’s failing to help her fans understand what’s at stake here, and they may sit on the sidelines come election day

I don’t see how the full quote really changes anything.

I fully agree with her position that folks she be informed and engaged in their local politics.

Fully agree with her that people should use critical thinking skills.

But saying both sides have the same amount of problems is a ridiculous false equivalency, and directly threatens the very people she supports. One side is going to make life a living hell (if not outright cause deaths - see: abortion rights for an example) for LGTBQ+ people, for women, and for people of color. There’s no “both sides” argument here.

She’s within her right to call out the Left for specific issues she disagrees on, but she loses credibility for effectively saying one side is not better than the other in all the areas I’ve described

Which quote is cherry picked? Honestly curious

I’m quite disappointed in her both-sidesism comments. Maybe that approach is defensible in “normal” times, but not when one candidate/party is fascist, authoritarian, anti-democracy, anti-women’s rights, anti-trans, anti-LGBTQ+, anti-people of color.

My feeling is that Chappell is effectively supporting that party by not taking a more vocal stand against them, particularly when she has the ability to influence so many young voters whose lives will be impacted for decades by what the extreme right has done in this country, and will further try to do if they win the White House (and/or Congress) again.