The video evidence is already out. Plus basically every European knows what an ultra is, and will look at the number of injured and comment “wow, that is lower then normal”
This is just ultras who got their asses kicked and are trying to claim victim status.
This is the funniest cope I’ve ever seen for ‘my countries ultras tried to start shit with non-football hooligans and got their asses kicked.’
Fighting people who aren’t women and children without total air superiority isn’t that easy, is it?
Your response is coming from the entitlement of not having your entire extended family disappeared.
I’m glad you have that privilege.
Don’t murder peoples families and expect their support.
“Yes, we murdered your entire extended family, but we need your help to beat this person we swear would kill your family 110% faster. Never mind the fact that we already killed all of your extended family”
What don’t you get about this? You and people like you have zero credibility given what the people you support ALREADY HAVE DONE with the people they’ve done it to.
Honestly, we were done after Gore.
2000 was the last time period we could have done something that wouldn’t result in unimaginable pain to deal with climate change.
Too many tipping points have already been crossed.
The climate is one thing that both would fuck the world.
That’s a done deal at this point. The Democratic party would have slowed the rate of increase, but given the tipping points we’ve already crossed, we require actual massive amounts of removal of greenhouse gases, and major geo-engineering projects to try and prevent everything coming our way from climate change.
This is less of a politics post, and more of a ‘we’re so fucked, and most people aren’t aware of how fucked we are that they think what the Democratic Party wants to do for climate would actually do a damn thing’
Seriously, at this point it would require a complete overhaul of both our political system and economic system such that life would be unrecognizable to forestall gigadeaths.
Genocide.
I haven’t voted on 118 yet. It’s the only bit unfilled. Not sure which way I’ll go. Probably no, and then walk the ballot to a Dropbox in my neighborhoods library.
No, they aren’t. That literally is nowhere in their post.
You either didn’t read it all, or you’re lying, or you have poor reading comprehension skills.
I doubt it’s the latter for a mod on a text based platform.
P.S. I’m an admin on a fairly large platform for a fairly large group. When the group took off, I started interacting on it a LOT less because my moderation responsibilities (which also increased with the groups growth, why are so many people just blatant assholes or trolls?) required that people view me as impartial and unbiased.
Choosing to engage frequently in controversial topics and using straw man arguments against posts that literally don’t say anything related to what you say they say is certainly… a choice… for a mod to make.
Don’t get me wrong, I miss my ability to interact with the group I admin like a normal person, but my duties to the group take precedence. I understand the desire, but there are other options.
Responding to multiple unprovoked acts of war from Israel is not aggression.
Bombing a countries embassy in a third party nation is an act of war.
Assassinating a visiting ambassador in Iran’s capital is an act of war.
The only reason Iran didn’t respond to the first is because the US promised them a peace deal.
Edit:
No, they can’t, because they aren’t engaging in the genocide and Israel doesn’t need our help to commit it.
American support is essential to the Israeli state, in response to aggression from Iran and other sources which is why we continue to provide it, it’s NOT essential to the genocide, which Israel is fully capable and willing to commit with their own resources.
Which is it? Are they committing a genocide or not?
Israel absolutely can’t do this without our weapons.
This is an objective provable fact.
Why do you believe that Israel ended every other war of aggression when there US forced them to end it.
Where do you think their money for weapons comes from?
Where do you think their weapons comes from?
I can’t tell it you’re lying intentionally to justify genocide, lying unintentionally because you are just fantastically uninformed about the regions history, or just flat out delusional.
Whatever the reason, you’re wrong. Biden could end this with a single phone call. You know, like has happened multiple times in the past. Because even if you don’t want to acknowledge the truth, Israel is aware of its absolute dependence on America.
Now onto the genocide bit. Actually, I can’t. At this point it is so blindingly obvious it is it’s like trying to argue with someone claiming the sun doesn’t exist.
I’m revising my opinion about your choice to lie about how much control the US has over Israeli adventurism.
I’d bet money you voted against measure 117.
This is provably a lie.
They can end the genocide right now. Implying that they can’t is trying (and failing) to provide them cover for committing a genocide. And yes, continuing to provide weapons to the grunts doing the work doesn’t absolve them of the moral responsibility for it, nor does it provide them enough cover to pretend that genocide isn’t the outcome they want.
So… Both parties then?
Edit: both parties support this genocide 100%.
If you want to differentiate between Trump and Harris, you need to use a different policy position to do so. Gaza isn’t it.
This isn’t ‘A cousin’ situation.
I have multiple friends who’ve lost the entirety of their extended families.
Aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews and grandparents gone in a day.
The jackasses going around calling people ‘entitled’ for not supporting the party directly responsible for erasing their entire families from existence are entitled to be able to go through life with absolutely no empathy or imagination.
No, it isn’t.
The only gymnastics someone is doing here is trying to tie a stupid domestic politician to a much greater foreign policy evil THAT HE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH. He also didn’t have anything to do with the Armenian genocide, and bringing him up in that context would be as relevant as bringing him up in this context.
Again, this isn’t hard to understand.
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RFK Jr. Is a crazy fuck. He also isn’t relevant to this topic at all.
Bringing him up in this context is literally providing cover to the people responsible for this moral failure, and tying it to someone who, while bad and crazy, has no particular relationship to this topic.
This isn’t hard to understand.
This forum is all the better because it doesn’t have genocide justifying fascist scum on it.
You didn’t say anything that would make anyone think. You posted rants about how ignorant people who responded to you were while ignoring not just their valid points but all of their points.
You are a failure morally. You’re also a failure at arguing. You wouldn’t convince anyone that didn’t already agree with you in the first place. If you’re posting with the hope of having any impact on the minds of others I would suggest you don’t even bother. You’re just wasting everyone’s time.
Most people that claim they will move haven’t actually looked at what is required from other countries and wouldn’t be accepted If they tried to move.
This is almost getting the point of Arrandts ‘banality of evil’ comment.
Most human evils are done by ordinary humans.
There is nothing specially evil about Nazis.
Fascist governments are made up of ordinary people.