The encampment group at my local university posted a report on what exactly they wanted divested, none of it was direct Israeli stocks or bonds, it was like $1 million in a massive defence company that had worked with Israel in the past, and another $200,000 in a hedge fund that itself had a portion invested in random military companies associated with Israel.

Hardly “invested in Israel”

The government is allowed to impeach them. Legally speaking.

The right will block such an action though because they too are corrupt.

$500M is their total investment, not the amount in Israeli bonds. In a proper portfolio bonds should likely be less than 30% of the total, sometimes even as low as 10%. Most of those bonds are going to be US Treasuries and corporate bonds. Of the maximum $60 million they keep in bonds, I’d be surprised if they had even $20 million in total foreign government bonds, and much of those are going to be in large and mostly stable government bonds like the Eurozone, China, Japan, UK, etc.

Like I said it’s probably tens of thousands total, even if we were generous and said it was $100,000 in Israeli bonds it would only be $0.10 per person. It likely closer to pennies though. I wouldn’t even be surprised if it’s $0, and this policy vote is just a PR piece rather than an actual change in holdings.

I tried to find out how much they actually had in Israeli government bonds, but that information is not available.

Their total investment portfolio is around $500M (including ALL stocks and bonds, corporate and government) so unless they were strangely focused on investing in Israeli government bonds they likely had only tens of thousands of dollars. In fact, I’d be surprised if they had any meaningful government bond holdings outside the US government bonds.

Have you read the bible? There’s an awful lot of killing in it.

Now being old is somehow evil?

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A) They don’t just want it inside Palestinian borders, they have actually stated they want to eliminate Israel.

B) There are no Palestinian borders, it’s not a country, it’s never been a country. There have never been agreed upon borders by all interested parties.

C) For Gaza specifically, it was occupied by Egypt for almost a couple decades in the middle of all this mess. So who’s borders are they again?

“I’m just wrong”

Israel does want the land. So does Palestine and the supporting countries, they’re also on record stating they want to eliminate Israel.

That’s kind of what defines a war most of the time.

“If Iran attacks Israel” You say that like it’s a hypothetical, have you already forgotten the 100+ drones and missiles they lobbed at Israel on April 13th?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Iranian_strikes_against_Israel

As I said before, and as you completely ignored. The British protectorate ended on May 14th, 1947 and on May 15th a coalition of Arab states invaded Israel. They did so because they did not like the borders set by the UN and wanted more territory. Tell me again how it’s Israel that started this shit?

The US could stop what’s happening in multiple of those countries. Does non-action not count towards death tolls? If you have the ability to pull a level that lets 20 people live, is it not your fault if you choose not to pull that lever and they die?

Also, what level of support matters? What if instead of sending munitions they only sent money, would that be a problem? What if instead of money they only sent food, which frees up their own money to buy munitions? The fun thing about the global economy is that almost anything is fungible at scale. Hell, if you look behind the curtains there are US goods and services being used in Russia to attack Ukraine right now, it’s just flowing through third parties first to obscure the transactions. The government may not be sending it directly, but America is benefiting from it.

The US though has provided both direct and non-direct support causing genocides in multiple places even in the last 20 years. George W Bush got re-elected while the Iraq war was happening, and that killed a couple hundred thousand civilians, which is what… 6 times the current Gazan death toll? Not to mention Afghanistan which was it’s own problem on top of that.

Yes, Palestine vs Israel is a war. It’s not automatically a genocide just because one side is absolutely wiping the floor with the other. It’s been a war since literally the day after Israel was founded, FIVE arab countries invaded Israel the moment the British Protectorate ended because they didn’t like the UN agreed upon borders. People seem to ignore this fact for some reason because it’s inconvenient to their “truth”.

You’re smart, so I’m hoping you’re smart enough to follow the money. The US and the west are funding Israel. Why? I’ll give you a hint, it has nothing to do with Palestinians, and everything to do with who is funding the Palestinians.

The truth behind of all of this is that both the Israelis and the Palestinians are mostly just being used by others in a proxy war, Hamas is fully funded and armed from outside of Gaza by foreign groups, they have effectively no local income or production related to the fighting other than supplying the people to die.

So why would the US and allies care? Because if Iran and group take out Israel (as is their stated goal) the US ability to control Iran will be diminished and Iran can then become a bigger threat to the western world.

And that’s how Geopolitics work.

What?

I don’t mind it being a priority, only it being the top criteria. Someone who says it’s their most important priority displays a significant lack of awareness for what’s happening in the country and in the world.

And you’re ignoring literally everything else I said, which is exactly my point.

What the fuck is wrong with people. Number one criteria for president is dealing with a small scale civil/proxy war.

Meanwhile in Sudan, Ukraine, China, Myanmar, etc. there are millions more people being killed/impacted by genocidal governments and these don’t even make the list of anyone giving a shit when it comes to presidential choice.

Meanwhile the entire world economy is falling apart for the average person.

Meanwhile there’s a drug epidemic (somewhat related to the last one) killing around 100,000 Americans a year.

If your number one criteria is the Palestinian war you are either Palestinian(totally okay) or you have no idea how to prioritize your life in a rational manner and should not be allowed to vote.

National Christians

NatC for short.

Well, the biggest problem with this situation and using the term “innocent” is that the vast majority of Gazans support Hamas and supported the attack on Oct 7th.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/poll-shows-palestinians-back-oct-7-attack-israel-support-hamas-rises-2023-12-14/#:~:text=JERUSALEM%2C Dec 13 (Reuters),respected Palestinian polling institute found.

72% support for the attack.

I don’t consider those people innocent.

So they’re pretty much on target.

Life isn’t fair.

There isn’t some sort of right to fairness.

What’s the diplomatic solution? Give in to terrorists and let them attack again?

That’s exactly what happened in Ukraine with Crimea and we’ve all seen how that turned out.

These groups both want the same land. Somebody has to not get their way.

What a fucking click bait title.