• Diplomjodler@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Won’t anybody think of the poor shareholders? Planned obsolescence is what keeps this whole system running.

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        God that’s a pet peeve of mine, people who think they’re the sole component about why something works, when what’s working works IN SPITE of them.

        Shareholders definitely qualify.

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    2 months ago

    Seriously, no one is going to mention “Right To Repair”? If this was law, and companies had to divulge how there stuff worked and was assembled, as well as sell parts, things would last longer. If every trade zone had a repairablity index, competition would make things last longer still.

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      3 months ago

      I haven’t looked at the statistical data on this myself, but there’s something to be said for survivorship bias.

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      3 months ago

      Will use 4x as much electricity though, ugh.

      https://www.cleanenergyresourceteams.org/your-old-refrigerator-energy-hog

      Anyone know of any refrigerators today that are as durable as older ones and have today’s efficiencies, but without the smart features and other junk?

      Average refrigerator today still lasts 13 years though, and while they’re made cheaply they also are cheaper (at least as a portion percentage of the average paycheck).

      https://reviewed.usatoday.com/dishwashers/features/ask-the-experts-why-dont-new-home-appliances-last

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        I’ve heard that in the US fridges are generally different, with stuff like active fans and nonsense like that. Is that true?

        Because every fridge I’ve seen in Europe is mechanically extremely basic and I’ve literally never seen or even heard of one breaking. In my experience fridges are one of the only things that have remained phenomenally simple in design and extremely unlikely to break.

        If someone told me their fridge broke, I’d genuinely assume they were lying. That’s how reliable they are.

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          Every LG and Samsung major appliance I’ve had has broken within 5 years.

          Refrigerators, washing machines, and dryers.

          Prior, I only ever had 80s era American tank energy hogs. Switched back to American brands in the last few years, so too soon to tell if they’ll work out better…

          Here’s to hoping.

          Oh, and having dealt with LG warranty for both electronics and major appliances, I’ll never buy another LG product that isn’t a monitor.

          LG monitors are the only higher end LG product’s I’ve owned that have survived well past the warranty date.

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            I think Samsung is generally considered trash now. I certainly will never buy any of their “smart” objects either, especially not an ad-ridden TV.

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              I can confirm Samsung appliances are complete trash. Every single one I’ve owned has either died or had a non-replaceable part fail within a couple years. We had a Samsung fridge at one point and one of the door switches failed. No big deal right, easy to replace? No, apparently Samsung used some kind of custom switch instead of the bog standard cherry contact switch that basically everything and everyone has used for decades, and it’s no longer being manufactured.

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      My grandparents had one of those old locking fridges from the 50s or so. It weighed like a metric ton, but that fucker NEVER broke.

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    My family bought an electric forklift for their factory in the early 90s. I think it is a Yale.

    My sister has since taken over the forklift for her company and she has only replaced the batteries and the controller once.

    These things are cheap to replace and not as much of a mystery as ICE engines.

    I am seeing people replace old Prius hybrid batteries themselves with basic tools now.

    I think the only thing I would be concern about is the crash safety for cars. Newer cars are safer. I think that would be the only draw to buy a newer vehicle.

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      I was going to scoff at the Prius…the battery is only 1500$.

      I need a Prius frame in an El Camino body.

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      I’m still using my OnePlus 8t. Phones lifespans are fine. If you can’t keep your phone working for 4 years, that’s on you.

      I see no reason to upgrade until support is dropped.

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        My Samsung a70 doesn’t get major software updates anymore. I’m OK with it. I’ll use this as long as possible.

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          For security reasons, don’t do that. Don’t use things older than the supported android version. It’s fucking Linux. It gets vulnerabilities.

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    Like the new LED lightbulbs. Buy one now and they last a year or so. I bought one of them WAY back when they were brand new and horribly expensive and the damn thing still works just fine.

    Companies can’t stand new technologies that just work. They have to build in planned obsolescence. See also: smartphones, especially iTrash that make you buy a new one every year or two because updates slow them down.