• phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    Yeah, this I can get behind. Fuck those guys painting Stonehenge, but this? Yeah, go ahead.

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      2 months ago

      Controversial opinion: whats the point of stonehenge if there is no humanity? Its not like it fosters some ecosystem or smth for other species, its a historical piece which holds sentimental value to us humans.

      If we continue to use oil, we will for sure fuck up humanity. The act was controversial but the message needs to be looked at

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        2 months ago

        We’re not going to die from climate change. Screw up the environment? Sure. But humans have the capability to literally live in space, on the moon, and soon enough, mars.

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          2 months ago

          *while supported from Earth.

          We don’t have second Earth to be supported from.

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        2 months ago

        If we’re assuming that humanity will go extinct, then sure there’s no point to stonehenge. But then there’s also no point to a protest either.

        If we’re assuming humanity isn’t going extinct, then there is a point to preserving stonehenge and there’s also a point to having these protests.

        Seems like there’s a logic fail happening here where there’s no point to preserving stone henge for the future but there is still a point to a protest about preserving things for the future.

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            2 months ago

            There’s zero chance that protesting Stonehenge will improve the future, they’re just rocks.

            Protesting an oil refinery might have better odds tho.

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              Zero change is pretty damn impressive confidence intervals, and oil refineries are much easier to cover things up/rewrite the story at

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                Even easier to rewrite history when someone is attacking something like Stonehenge. “Just a bunch of idiots that don’t really care about the problem, they’re just trying to get attention for themselves.” And is that all that far from the truth? IT is 100% about getting attention the only thing that’s debatable is whether it’s attention for the cause or attention for themselves.

                The problem isn’t that people don’t know global warming exists, the problem is they don’t care. Sure, being an asshole gets you attention, but it doesn’t influence anyone to help with a cause. So whatever their intent, these kinds of actions are just selfish attention seeking.

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                  2 months ago

                  So you want them to break into a secure facility and probably get federal charges instead of some rocks?

                  Cause these rocks are special rocks to you?

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      The guys doing Stonehenge at least tried. They used a powder they thought would just come off in the rain.

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          The Stone Henge people are saying that the water, lichen, and powder would have reacted badly. I do not have the education to know if that’s true or not.

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            2 months ago

            They’re probably just a bunch of upset babies blowing everything out of proportion, of course they would go to the most unlikely and extreme outcome.

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      2 months ago

      It’s literally rocks. You’re valuing human life less than rocks, I think that says more about you than them.

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        How is this dangerous to human life in any way? They did this to the plane while it was in the ground. Presumably someone is going to clean it before attempting takeoff, and I doubt a new paint job is going to severely impact the safety of the airplane regardless. I mean I guess if they somehow clogged all the static ports it would be a problem, but that’s not particularly likely and only really a deadly situation if you take off at night or with less than competent pilots. Those are supposed to be checked before every flight regardless.

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          You got my point backwards boss. The climate protestors care, the people bugging about rocks don’t care about human life, they care about rocks that have historically been vandalized to make a point literally hundreds of times.

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            You might want to go and tell that to the people down voting your comment. Clearly people are not understanding what you put, an edit might be in order.

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              I’m not particularly bothered by down votes, to me it sorta weeds out bad faith actors anyway.

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                  2 months ago

                  It makes perfect sense.

                  “It’s literally rocks…” Whats just rocks? Stonehenge!

                  “You’re valuing human life less than rocks, I think that says more about you than them.”

                  What are the protestors protesting for? Climate change.

                  Ie. If vandalizing Stonehenge is a bigger issue to you than climate change then you’re valuing human life less than rocks.

                  It could not be any more clear and I think that’s pretty evident based on the lack of offering a better wording.

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                    It sounded like you are comparing the stonehenge protest to the one with the planes, not with climate change. Safety is critical in aviation, so it might sound dangerous to people that the planes were painted. I would instead say something like “they are valuing literal rocks over the lives of people claimed by climate disasters”. Then it’s clear you are talking about climate change in the second instance, and not the people flying the plane.

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            They’re rocks as well. They’ll be fine. A little paint doesn’t destroy them like temperatures do to the planet.

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          Just remember, you took time out of your day to seek someone out and act twatty. Good job, keep it up.

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              That’s still taking time out of your day and finding something to be a douchebag about, contribute to the conversation or keep your mean bully bullshit to yourself.