• SulaymanF@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    This is idiotic. Gandhi hated that Pakistan split off and said that he recognized their existence but would never recognize their “right” to exist.

    That’s not even an international policy. Does Castile have a right to exist? Does Kashmir? Does Kurdistan? Why doesn’t Germany demand the same for others?

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        4 months ago

        No. Germany can recognize Jewish lives and the worldwide Jewish community without needing to play into the hands of a rightwing apartheid state and getting involved smack in the middle of their political dispute. This isn’t hard; it’s like being able to say Black Lives Matter without having to support and endorse the controversial policies of Louis Farrakhan.

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          4 months ago

          Yes.

          There is a VERY specific reason why Germany is doing this, whilst staying out of other issues. If I have to point out that reason then I think that maybe you should pick up a history book.

          Also they aren’t saying that Germany is recognizing Jewish lives and Jewish communities, it says the state of Israel, you know, that appareheids state currently working hard to commit genocide.

          Anyone bringing but this issue with either Israel or Palestine being good and the other side being evil is just downright lying for whatever reason. Germany pushing this for Israel really REALLY begs the question: okay, cool, Israel has a right to exist. What about Palestine, and Palestinians in general? Should we just off all of them? Eradicate all of them, men, women and children alike, no matter what country?

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      4 months ago

      Because of our history with Israel? I am all against the genocide against palestinians but defending israels right to exist is a good thing

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        4 months ago

        Why add this to te immigration screeming process while they are actively committing war crimes, stealing land and murdering kids?

        germany has managed to land on te wrong side of history twice in the same conversation.

        Blindly standing with a group becuase germany feels they have given their own atrocious history.

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        4 months ago

        If “their right to exist” weren’t used to mean “their right to take land from Palestinians and create settlements in land they took through violence” it would be a bit simpler to agree with the statement, but the foundation of Israel itself has always been on pretty shakey ground. The only reason Israel has a right to exist is because it’s impractical that they’d leave at this point. They should leave the land they’ve stolen though.

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        4 months ago

        our history with israel is the third reich and israel having friendly relations. We are continuing nazi tradition by supporting israel.