Something is wrong with this split-screen picture. On one side, former president Donald Trump rants about mass deportations and claims to have stopped “wars with France,” after being described by his longest-serving White House chief of staff as a literal fascist. On the other side, commentators debate whether Vice President Kamala Harris performed well enough at a CNN town hall to “close the deal.”

Let’s review: First, Harris was criticized for not doing enough interviews — so she did multiple interviews, including with nontraditional media. She was criticized for not doing hostile interviews — so she went toe to toe with Bret Baier of Fox News. She was criticized as being comfortable only at scripted rallies — so she did unscripted events, such as the town hall on Wednesday. Along the way, she wiped the floor with Trump during their one televised debate.

Trump, meanwhile, stands before his MAGA crowds and spews nonstop lies, ominous threats, impossible promises and utter gibberish. His rhetoric is dismissed, or looked past, without first being interrogated.

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    I’ll take the downvotes, but a large part of this is because she’s a woman. “One candidate (a man) can rant about gibberish while the other (a woman) has to be perfect.” doesn’t just apply to politics, this sounds like every office I’ve ever worked in.

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      a large part of this is because she’s a woman.

      the slogan I’ve seen on some shirts, “Good thing we are only looking for equality and not revenge” comes to mind.

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        As a straight white man, I wouldn’t mind wearing a shirt that says “Good thing they only want equality and not revenge” and let people guess who it is referring to.

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        the slogan I’ve seen on some shirts, “good thing we are only looking for equality and not revenge” comes to mind.

        Jesus Christ, I love that so much.

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      For sure.

      It does not help that her town hall tone was very… very … I don’t know… pleading/worrying/low energy. I almost had Hillary feelings at some points.

      She had fire, spirit… her campaign has toned down a lot since the DNC… Which is unfortunate.

      Edit! For the Down voters, I never said trump good… he’s horrible. I was merely pointing out that her messaging changed, probably under the directions of the DNC. Cookie cutter plain answers… everything focus grouped.

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          There is what? I can see the difference between pre DNC Kamala and post DNC, can’t you? The tone is more tempered and she is sometimes almost whiney in her conversations, way too coached.

          Before the DNC she was way more relatable, joyous, and direct. A powerfully woman that I think a lot of people looked up to. Now every answer goes back to the talking points… she hardly answered any questions or committed to anything. Even her running mate toned down.

          She is still a better choice over a rambling senile fascist but I think the US deserve the pre DNC Kamala and I hope that’s what they get when she is elected. A powerfully woman that is not controlled by the democratic party.

          The double standards applied to her are misogynistic and the media is doing everything to samewash trump and put weight on Kamala to be perfect. Trump has concepts of a plan and the media goes on and on how Kamala should show direct policy plans and have it all figured out. Trump was president for 4 years but her track record as VICE president seems to be the point of debate. It’s disgusting.

          From a non Americans viewpoint I also have to say that it probably does not help that the Dems platform now seems very close to bush republicans on a lot of things… the Overton window moved… a lot.

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            There is what?

            there’s the ridiculous double standard.

            take every critique you have for her - pleading/worrying/low energy - they all apply in spades IF NOT MORE to trump.

            and no one’s questioned Kamala’s loyalties, but Trump’s talking to putin on the regular.

            YET SOMEHOW THIS IS STILL A CONTEST? double standard bullshit

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              1000000% the double standard that is applied to kamala compared to Trump seen in the media makes my blood boil. And it should do so for everyone. But the propaganda machine of the billionaire class is very effective.

              I wasn’t comparing Kamala to Trump (as there is no comparison possible, she is leagues beyond anything he can even dream of… although Id favor bernie over her any day), I was merely observing a difference between pre and post DNC Kamala. Now she feels more like a Hillary bot in the town hall.

              I also believe there are no centrist or undecided voters in the US, only people still ashamed to say out loud they will vote for an open fascist.

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            This is a result of the electoral college. It is more important to get centrist states to vote than for millions urban voters to be excited.

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            As a gay black man I see no reason to believe you are who youre claiming to be and I don’t care for identity politics anyway.

            You’re wrong. Most people here don’t agree with you. Get over it.

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        Edit! For the Down voters, I never said trump good… he’s horrible

        No centrist cares. They see any admission that Harris is anything other than perfect as Trump support.

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            Of course. But that doesn’t mean that people who would prefer pastrami support Trump.

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              When pastrami has never been on the menu, and your sandwich choice is left to the minimum wage dipshit behind the counter; it matters very much.

              Nice try with your false equivalence!

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        This is the most 🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅comment I’ve read all day.

        Keep it weird, US