• CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Citation needed.

    Certainly!

    In machine learning, a neural network (also artificial neural network or neural net, abbreviated ANN or NN) is a model inspired by the structure and function of biological neural networks in animal brains

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    A neural network is a method in artificial intelligence that teaches computers to process data in a way that is inspired by the human brain.

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    A neural network is a machine learning program, or model, that makes decisions in a manner similar to the human brain

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    *A neural network, or artificial neural network, is a type of computing architecture that is based on a model of how a human brain functions *

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    Would you like some more citations?

    Thinking LLMs are capable of reasoning is the digital equivalent of putting eyes on a pencil then feeling bad when it gets broken in half.

    In this paper, we present Reasoning via Planning (RAP), a novel LLM reasoning framework that equips LLMs with an ability to reason akin to human-like strategic planning

    Source - Reasoning with Language Model is Planning with World Model

    Motivated by the observation that adding more concise CoT examples in the prompt can improve LLM reasoning performance

    Source - Microsoft Research

    LegalBench - a tool to evaluate the reasoning performance of an LLM in the legal domain.

    A paper on benchmarking an LLMs temporal reasoning.

    Shall I provide some more?

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      2 months ago

      Wikipedia is not a source.

      Amazon is not a source.

      Someone trying to sell their LLM to the general public, and therefore simplifying the language to convey a concept is not a source.

      These nodes pass data to each other, just like how in a brain, neurons pass electrical impulses to each other.

      By that definition my dimmer switch functions like a biological brain because it passes electrical impulses.

      In this paper, we present Reasoning via Planning (RAP), a novel LLM reasoning framework that equips LLMs with an ability to reason akin to human-like strategic planning

      This prevents LLMs from performing deliber- ate planning akin to human brains,

      So does not function like a brain does.

      To overcome the limitations, we propose a new LLM reasoning framework

      So it’s a proposal for a new framework to mimic it, not how LLMs currently function

      Aaand I’m going to stop checking your sources now. If you’re just going to gish gallop every link from a search page you think agrees with you I’m not going to waste my time reading things you clearly didn’t bother to. It took 5 links to get to something that even looks like a source, and it doesn’t say what you think it does.

      Read your sources and make sure they say what you think they do. If you present me with another pile of links and the first one is invalid I won’t bother looking at the 2nd.

      • CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        My god you’re thick.

        What you just did is called “digging a deeper hole”.

        Like I said, I’ve worked in the industry for over a decade. What I said isn’t even up for debate. If you had a shred of understanding you know how astoundingly wrong what you said is. In fact, if you had a shred of understanding you just flat out wouldn’t have said it.

        Amazon is not a source.

        Someone trying to sell their LLM to the general public, and therefore simplifying the language to convey a concept is not a source.

        Straight up genetic fallacy.

        Wikipedia is not a source.

        You’re right. It’s not a “source”. It’s a source aggregator. You know that list of little tiny text at the bottom of each page? Those are “references” from credible sources that are cited.

        I’ll give you an example. The quote from Wikipedia I provided has a little “1” and a little “2” right at the end of the sentence. If you click on them it’ll take you to the cited source.

        The little “1” will bring you to the following page:

        https://news.mit.edu/2017/explained-neural-networks-deep-learning-0414

        Here are some excerpts:

        Modeled loosely on the human brain, a neural net consists of thousands or even millions of simple processing nodes that are densely interconnected.

        particular network layouts or rules for adjusting weights and thresholds have reproduced observed features of human neuroanatomy and cognition, an indication that they capture something about how the brain processes information.

        https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/neuroscience/artificial-neural-network

        It resembles the human brain in two respects: The knowledge is acquired by the network through a learning process, and interneuron connection strengths known as synaptic weights are used to store the knowledge.

        They imitate somewhat the learning process of a human brain because they learn the relationship between the input parameters and the controlled and uncontrolled variables by studying previously recorded data.

        ANN is a computational model that is based on a machine learning technique. It works like a human brain neuron system.

        Directly linked to in the Science Direct page from Wikipedia:

        https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/B9780444528551500118

        Artificial neural networks (ANNs) are computational models that attempt to emulate the architecture and function of the human brain (Russell and Norvig, 1995).

        So does not function like a brain does.

        Now I know you’re either 14 or just not very smart. You directly quoted the source with This prevents LLMs from performing deliber- ate planning akin to human brains,

        It’s literally in the sentence, it said “deliberate planning akin to human brains”. It doesn’t say anywhere in that sentence that neural networks aren’t modelled after brains and it doesn’t say anything about reasoning (the two things you keep refuting).

        Aaand I’m going to stop checking your sources now

        Convenient for your “argument”.

        Read your sources and make sure they say what you think they do

        I have. You just can’t read, have reading comprehension issues, or simply can’t understand them.

        If you present me with another pile of links and the first one is invalid I won’t bother looking at the 2nd.

        I don’t care if you do. Anyone else who reads these comments will see you’re out of your depth.