• taiyang@lemmy.world
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    Oh! I love Angela Davis!

    That said, what a fucking weird world where she and Dick “Fuck You” Cheney are on the same side-- and somehow it’s still a toss-up election.

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    Ah, a Marxist who has taken actual lessons from past failings of those who adhere to the ideology. How refreshing.

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      “But genocide!” - Dude, it’s gonna be genocide either way. Voting for a third party or abstaining entirely isn’t going to change that.

      But it could be a slightly less painful genocide if Kamala is in charge. Why not help make things marginally better?

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            US libs value Americans© lifes more than us nonyanks. Well I’m ever asked the same question, I will not show any solidarity with them. I hope you guys get the civil war you started in so many foreign countries.

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              That’s more of a general human trait than an American one. Yes, Americans are very fond of their exceptionalism, but valuing the lives of your own tribe and kin more than those of others is something most mammals share. I dont want war anywhere in the world. I hope you have a nice day.

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                Then please write your politician to tell them to force netanyahu to calm his tits.

                My gf have friends in lebannon. She have friends from gaza. She hurts.

                Please?

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                  I’ve done so, Peter Welch is solidly against genocide and Bernie Sanders is trying congressional wizardry to try and cut off arms shipments.

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                  That’s exactly the problem, no one can force Netanyahu to do anything. He’s complety off his rocker. He’s doing everything to stay in power, because the moment he’s not, the courts will go after him. That’s why he’s trying to appease both those pushing for peace (Yes, I actually mean Biden here) and the warmongers (Israeli right wingers). Notice how he hasn’t gotten all the hostages back? That’s on purpose. The longer the war goes on, the better for him. Now, who do you rather want in the White House next year? A feeble old man who will go along with everything Bibi says? Or an experienced prosecutor who can put her foot down?

                  I’m sorry for your friends. They need to leave, now. If war came to my doorstep, that’s what I would do.

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                  Lol. What a lot of effort it must be to project your preconceptions on some rando on the internet. How do you know I don’t give a shit? That seeing these things doesn’t hurt me to my core? What do you want me to do, go out and start murdering politicians? Sit down and think for a few minutes before writing your next comment.

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                If you want your heavily censored american-only echo-chamber there’s a website called reddit you could go to.

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        People who say “Kamela Harris supports genocide!” keep forgetting Trump literally put the Israeli Embassy in Jerusalem and wants to nuke everything…

        I randomly remembered that Ben Shapiro claimed multiple times that radiation was a myth liberals made up to get people to not use nukes… These Right Wingers are crazy

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          The yanks are crazy. Fix your goddamn country. Every four years you pick between the carrot and the stick and then proceed with the exact same external policy. You guys sucks ass. The angry part of me hopes for a civil war in the US. After all the time you coup’ed foreign countries, it would be a nice find-out moment.

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        If you only see the choices where you don’t sacrifice anything (between something prepared and served for you), you don’t have a choice.

        “Slightly less painful genocide” will not even be slightly less painful. But people there sacrifice lives, while you won’t even sacrifice effort (and future efforts in court) to do something of a long list of actions which constitute political terrorism. You are not willing to even break law to defend people who are not being just abused, but murdered en masse in horrible ways.

        Then you pretend with that cowardly logic that these are all choices you have, so you don’t even want to take responsibility for choosing the easy and safe path of doing nothing.

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          you won’t even sacrifice effort (and future efforts in court) to do something of a long list of actions which constitute political terrorism. You are not willing to even break law to defend people who are not being just abused, but murdered en masse in horrible ways.

          Big words for a small man on the internet. Do you have receipts from your actions? I’d love to see them.

          You don’t know me. You don’t know what I have or have not done. Voting and direct action are not mutually exclusive.

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            Big words for a small man on the internet. Do you have receipts from your actions? I’d love to see them.

            Pot calling the kettle black a bit ain’t ya.

            I hope you do walk the walk to go along with your big talk, but take responsibility for your words too. Statements like yours gives people a reason to feel “good enough” about “slightly less genocide”. And if we all keep repeating the mantra “slightly less genocide”, we can feel “good enough” all the way to complete genocide.

            Then we can all wear a big frown so everyone knows how upset we are about it.

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            Big words for a small man on the internet. Do you have receipts from your actions? I’d love to see them.

            Not your business.

            You don’t know me. You don’t know what I have or have not done. Voting and direct action are not mutually exclusive.

            All I’ve said follows from your own comment.

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          People on the internet will really be like ‘you believe in voting? that pales in effectiveness to my strategy, firebombing a Walmart’ and then not firebomb a Walmart.

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            Hey, I regularly do that… it usually happens after I’ve had too much taco bell but I leave those bathrooms looking like a war zone.

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            When people are getting firebombed by thousands in your name, you’d do well to at least dream day and night of firebombing anything near you.

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        But it could be a slightly less painful genocide if Kamala is in charge.

        Are you joking? The situation is dire when people are patting themselves on the back for a “slightly less painful genocide” whatever the hell that means in practice.

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          It means genocide but the bombs have pride flags instead of American flags, so completely different and if you disagree you’re a Russian bot :3

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          It’s called accepting reality for what it is and doing your best with the plausible options available.

          I.E. being an adult

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            The Adults In The Room are here to make Tough Decisions just like in muh TV slop and wouldn’t you know it, those Tough Decisions involve slaughtering the poor and vulnerable for the benefit of the rich. Anyone who thinks wanton slaughter of the poor is bad, actually, is just a Whiny Child who Doesn’t Understand muh Complexity and Nuance needs to Grow Up and Accept Reality, and anyway that’s why we need to Kill All The Jews Palestinians.

            Grow a fucking spine. Or a conscience. Or both. Grow up and stop looking for a grown up to tell you how the world has to work.

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              No, it means recognizing a shitty situation and working to make it less shitty - the “I won’t vote for Harris because genocide” crowd are refusing to make a situation less shitty because they want the situation to not be shitty at all. Big problems don’t have easy solutions - in this case we can all see what a good action would be (stopping any offensive arms sales to Isreal) but the political situation is such that that’s not going to happen - we tried to make that happen and I’m deeply grateful to everyone who protested the DNC.

              But, at the end of the day, Trump will accelerate the genocide. He’s the worst outcome.

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    “But when you reach that level,” nominee of one of the two major parties, “you have to be the face of capitalism, militarism, and neo-colonialism.” Harris, Fernandez warned, “has told us she will be that face, that she will build the most lethal military apparatus ever.”

    Shit’s bleak

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      As dangerous as that reality is, however, she said, “There’s more to think about: Harris is not a fascist, and the other person running for president is.”

      You forgot part of the quote.

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          Naive to expect Americans to know this. Or that “the man who appointed Hitler” was, despite formalities, a military dictator, and that the political opposition there got its share of extrajudicial executions, and political violence was normalized there before any kind of election success of Nazis. People don’t like looking into details.

          That the whole narrative of “good democracy turning fascist” in post-WWI Germany is bullshit - it wasn’t really democracy.

          But it was similar to most of the “flawed democracies” on our planet in our time, for which the narrative is that it’s some new thing uncommon in history before USSR’s breakup. So that narrative was intended to divert attention from similarities between Weimar Germany and those very profitable (for corrupt western politicians) partners.

          But getting back to your parallel, it’s correct. Kamala Harris is the “law & order & respectable establishment” type. She doesn’t even promise solutions to actual problems, only to some symptoms, and those solutions seem like making fun of the general population.

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            Yeah he got democratically elected after he sent the brown shirt to intimidate everybody else and burned the parliement /s

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            The guy who appointed Hitler as chancellor was the “lesser evil” who was “the only way to stop Hitler.”

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    She’s someone I really want to deep dive, but I have never taken the time. Her monologue that begins at 1:24 minutes into this clip was my first exposure to her and I love that moment when you realize these awful examples she’s citing are not just awful in their own right, but that they drive home her undeniable point at the end, in response to what sounds like it was a bullshit question.

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    The Venn diagram of the people who have an issue with this and the people who don’t care that David Duke supports Trump is a circle

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        How random, you 3 have very similar name structures.

        Thing, type of, animal

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          I think Owlbears are actually one creature, its a monster from dnd or something like that. Not that it really changes the observation much I suppose, since mine’s referencing Ice-breathing dragons rather than ice and dragons separately anyway

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    Therefore it’s okay that we send billions in support of genocide. Don’t kid yourself, there will be no open space after your only leverage (your vote) is no longer needed. This is basic bargaining.

    Waving around one person as an example of “one of the good ones” with this “real marxist” talk is disgusting. These slimebag politicians only care about your vote and you’ll see no change after the election, just like how Obama won and then continued most of Bush’s policies.

    You remember Bush, right? The war criminal who led the country into two wars and the worst financial crisis since the great depression? Well he used to be the monster of the week, but now he’s best buds with the democrats and trump is the new monster of the week. I’m sick of this dog and pony show.

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      But you see this one Marxist endorsed Kamala, clearly everything she does (including genocide, cracking down on protests, increasing fracking, compromising with fascists, and further expanding capitalist tyranny) is for the good of the workers :3