Does being poor compel people to speed or something?
The problem is two-fold: one is that our roads are designed to encourage bad driving behaviour, and drivers feel entitled to drive in a way that’s convenient (but not safe).
Have you ever tried to get traffic calming measures implemented in a community, especially around school zones? It’s excruciatingly difficult, and a few complaints from NIMBYs will have those measures removed, wasting taxpayer money and not solving any problems.
It’s infuriating that low powered micromobility devices like e-scooters are so severely restricted, but multi-ton weapons can be operated with almost no enforcement or consequences.
No, but $100+ to a poor person could be the difference between literal life and death.
Sure, but nobody is compelling someone to break traffic laws. Someone who can’t afford a fine will probably drive way more cautiously.
But very few poor people can even afford a car these days, so this doesn’t seem like a real concern.
The solution to this is sliding scale fines. The better off you are the more you get fined.
I do agree with that. And more than that, the consequences should include lost time. Imagine some rich asshole who has to do 40 hours of community service. They’d look like a total ass in front of their boss or employees.
You know that you can drive a car you don’t own right? And not every person who is ticketed is driving like an asshole. I got a 100 dollar ticket for driving 57 in what was normally a 50 km zone, but there was brand new signage up that I had literally 4 seconds to read (I went back and timed it) that gave: months of the year, days of the week, and hours of the day that the new 40 km/h speed limit was enforced. But because I can’t read at the speed of light while driving down the road, bam, ticket.
It isn’t illegal to go under the limit. If you were unsure of the timing of the 40 zone, the safe thing would be to just do 40 anyway. I agree its still not a great system, my area typically has a 40 sign with yellow lights that flash during times the 50 zone drops to a 40. It’d be better to just always have it be a 40 zone.
It doesn’t help if this was a long time ago, but you could contest the ticket with the information you gathered.
I know someone who got a ticket but the sign was obscured by a tree branch. After contesting the ticket, the ticket was dropped and the signage was fixed
You know that you can drive a car you don’t own right?
You know it costs money to gas, maintain, insure, and/or rent a car right?
And not every person who is ticketed is driving like an asshole. I got a 100 dollar ticket for driving 57 in what was normally a 50 km zone, but there was brand new signage up that I had literally 4 seconds to read (I went back and timed it) that gave: months of the year, days of the week, and hours of the day that the new 40 km/h speed limit was enforced. But because I can’t read at the speed of light while driving down the road, bam, ticket.
Fact of the matter is you were speeding before they adjusted the sign, it is your responsibility as a driver to obey all posted signage, and if you cannot abide by the rules of the road as well as be capable of reading and responding to signage I do not believe you should be allowed to drive because you are a risk to everyone around you.
You deserved that ticket, and I wish they had suspended your license until you were retested.
LOL, a suspended licence for going 7 kms over the regular speed limit. Yeah, you’re a rational person alright, and I should take any argument you have seriously. Ok.
And you know that you don’t have to gas, maintain, insure or rent a car that you borrow from a friend of family member, right?
Going 7 over the regular limit does not make me a danger to society you absolute lunatic, and it is the responsibility of the government to make sure that signage is CLEAR and READABLE to people on the road.
I was going 7 over the limit as per my story, a great big 50km/h hour sign where 40 km/h was only enforced certain hours of the day, certain days of the week, certain months of the year, all of which I was expected to read within literal seconds, and didn’t slow down enough in time.
Any traffic enforcement officer would literally laugh in your face if you told them I shouldn’t have a license. Grow a brain. This will be my last post. Jesus Christ you are such a fucking moron.
Does being poor compel people to speed or something?
The problem is two-fold: one is that our roads are designed to encourage bad driving behaviour, and drivers feel entitled to drive in a way that’s convenient (but not safe).
Have you ever tried to get traffic calming measures implemented in a community, especially around school zones? It’s excruciatingly difficult, and a few complaints from NIMBYs will have those measures removed, wasting taxpayer money and not solving any problems.
It’s infuriating that low powered micromobility devices like e-scooters are so severely restricted, but multi-ton weapons can be operated with almost no enforcement or consequences.
No, but $100+ to a poor person could be the difference between literal life and death.
$100+ to someone well off or rich is nothing but pocket change.
The solution to this is sliding scale fines. The better off you are the more you get fined.
Why should a poor person have to spend 90% of their money on a fine when a “rich” person only has to spend 0.0009% for the exact same infraction.
Sure, but nobody is compelling someone to break traffic laws. Someone who can’t afford a fine will probably drive way more cautiously.
But very few poor people can even afford a car these days, so this doesn’t seem like a real concern.
I do agree with that. And more than that, the consequences should include lost time. Imagine some rich asshole who has to do 40 hours of community service. They’d look like a total ass in front of their boss or employees.
Poor people generally don’t own cars, and if you can afford to own a personal vehicle, you can afford to pay for driving like an asshole in one.
What a strange disconnected reality you live in.
That or you’re just a troll.
Either way im blocking your dumbass.
You know that you can drive a car you don’t own right? And not every person who is ticketed is driving like an asshole. I got a 100 dollar ticket for driving 57 in what was normally a 50 km zone, but there was brand new signage up that I had literally 4 seconds to read (I went back and timed it) that gave: months of the year, days of the week, and hours of the day that the new 40 km/h speed limit was enforced. But because I can’t read at the speed of light while driving down the road, bam, ticket.
It isn’t illegal to go under the limit. If you were unsure of the timing of the 40 zone, the safe thing would be to just do 40 anyway. I agree its still not a great system, my area typically has a 40 sign with yellow lights that flash during times the 50 zone drops to a 40. It’d be better to just always have it be a 40 zone.
It doesn’t help if this was a long time ago, but you could contest the ticket with the information you gathered.
I know someone who got a ticket but the sign was obscured by a tree branch. After contesting the ticket, the ticket was dropped and the signage was fixed
You know it costs money to gas, maintain, insure, and/or rent a car right?
Fact of the matter is you were speeding before they adjusted the sign, it is your responsibility as a driver to obey all posted signage, and if you cannot abide by the rules of the road as well as be capable of reading and responding to signage I do not believe you should be allowed to drive because you are a risk to everyone around you.
You deserved that ticket, and I wish they had suspended your license until you were retested.
LOL, a suspended licence for going 7 kms over the regular speed limit. Yeah, you’re a rational person alright, and I should take any argument you have seriously. Ok.
And you know that you don’t have to gas, maintain, insure or rent a car that you borrow from a friend of family member, right?
Going 7 over the regular limit does not make me a danger to society you absolute lunatic, and it is the responsibility of the government to make sure that signage is CLEAR and READABLE to people on the road.
Have a nice day.
You were going 17 over the posted limit, as per your story, and weren’t aware enough to know about it.
You shouldn’t have a license.
Take care.
I was going 7 over the limit as per my story, a great big 50km/h hour sign where 40 km/h was only enforced certain hours of the day, certain days of the week, certain months of the year, all of which I was expected to read within literal seconds, and didn’t slow down enough in time.
Any traffic enforcement officer would literally laugh in your face if you told them I shouldn’t have a license. Grow a brain. This will be my last post. Jesus Christ you are such a fucking moron.
57-50=17? Did you attend school in America, or something? ChatGPT spit that answer out for you?
The speed limit was 40, as per the story.
It is really funny to me that you insult my level of education while failing at solving a word problem though, so thank you for that.