• mat dave@lemmy.ml
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    I don’t support it, only because my state wouldn’t be seperating to join the “good” side

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    If the Union completely dissolved and each state had to function as nation, it would be a massive boom for the oligarchs. They already have more money than most states.

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      I imagine they’d form blocs, on centred on California obviously, one on the other coast, and a few in between

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    Yes. In fact, I’ve decided to take a leap of faith and join the California National Party, which you can all check out here: CNP website. I am sick of the usual Republicans vs Democrats. Everytime one party is in power, we are constantly worrying about the loss of civil and human rights. Lets start with a clean slate. If you are a California resident, at least check out their party platform. Also, in 2026, there will be a gubernatorial candidate for CNP. His name is Sean Forbes.

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    Washingtonian here, I’ve been saying this should happen for like 8 years now lmao

    The marriage isn’t working. Let it go.

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      6 hours ago

      We have had a name for it for awhile, my fellow Washingtonians call the Washington/Oregon/California union ‘Cascadia’. Wouldn’t be such a bad idea.

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        If you don’t take AZ and NV with you, you will get your Colorado River water cut off and lose a lot of farming power. That might even require UT. Unless it’s only Northern California included, in which case you still lose that agriculture, and possible land based trade lines to Mexico. It’s not a clean and pretty separation.

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        Fuck yeah! Cascadia! Let us stop funding this awful government and actually put our taxes towards improving people’s lives

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        Absolutely, and I’m about ready to start identifying as that over American 🫠.

        I usually think of BC being part of it, too, cause we’re so similar culturally, and we hang out on each other’s side of the made up invisible line all the time.

        One can dream!

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    Californian. No.

    It wouldn’t solve any problems that can’t be solved by other means, and it would create new problems that we haven’t had to worry about before. It’d be a net loss for everyone involved.

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      We’d have to spend a fortune on defense.

      We’d suffer massive losses from being cut off from interstate trade agreements.

      We’d have to deal with massive immigration issues.

      We’d probably get our shit pushed in from all the federal military bases within the state.

      I think it’s waaaay easier to just oust the current leadership and remove all the Congress members that aided and abetted.

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    Wouldn’t work out. World’s too complicated for simple answers like that.

    Leaving, even if it would produce a viable nation, would involve leaving a lot of people in the lurch. There’s people in conservative states who need the counter balance of blue states to slow down their government’s trend to self destruction and fascism.

    Even though it’s increasingly frustrating with how feeble that resistance is, it does keep things like banning gay marriage in the “difficult to pass” territory and not the “a few compromises” one.

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    Coloradan. Only if a neighboring State does, because if not, we are neighboring other borders and we would be landlocked without food or water imports. Its either all Pacific and Front Range States agree we have to split, or none of us can.

    Our most populous cities, Denver and CO Springs, are below the mountains, and are screwed in a combat scenario.

    I don’t see Utah, Wyoming, Nevada, or Kansas doing so willingly.

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      In American balkanization I imagine yall would be a battleground of the literal variety. Colorado and new Mexico would want to join Pacifica and Nevada, Arizona, Wyoming, and Montana likely won’t. But also you’re valuable enough to justify putting up a stink for

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    Indiana. We’d fail so hard and so fast that I literally cannot imagine it. People are nuts. It’d be instant MAGA-flavored Mad Max if they felt like they had an excuse to preemptively defend themselves with their guns across the countryside.

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      Alabama. Not enough federal money in the world to keep that state afloat.

      If they split from the Union, everyone starves.

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    A bulkanized US would certainly be good for the planet, assuming it survived the preliminary civil wars as nation state boundaries are created and alliances made with Canada and Mexico. Who gains control of all the nukes would be a big question.