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    veganbtw@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 2 days ago

    20% of the worlds prison population

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    20% of the worlds prison population

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    veganbtw@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 2 days ago
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      A rational argument is an argument that follows some sort of logical thought process, it has nothing to do with whether the conclusion is correct or not.

      This is a rational argument:

      • Premise 1: The Earth is a planet.
      • Premise 2: The Earth is flat.
      • Premise 3: All flat planets have edges.
      • Conclusion: The Earth has edges.

      Premise 2 is false, and premise 3 is unknown, so the conclusion is false, but it follows a logical thought process and isn’t nonsense.

      This is nonsense and irrational:

      • Premise 1: Apples are round.
      • Premise 2: Pyramids exist.
      • Premise 3: Unicorns have horns.
      • Conclusion: Aliens!

      There is no discernible logic or rational thought process. It is just apparently random statements with no connection.

      • https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/reason
      • https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nonsense
      • https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_false_premises
      • https://thelogicofscience.com/2017/03/27/the-fallacy-fallacy-reject-the-argument-not-the-conclusion/

      Again, since we can’t even agree on commonly accepted definitions for basic concepts, we just aren’t going to be able to have any kind of productive conversation.

      Good day.

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        This is splitting hairs to justify a fubdamentally irrational argument based on false conclusions. I agree about one thing, though, this isn’t a productive conversation.

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