• Dagwood222@lemm.ee
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    21 hours ago

    There are two sides. The Right and everyone else. The Right wins because they stay on topic and vote. Until the rest of us fall in line like they do, they’ll keep on winning. Show me where I’m wrong.

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      8 hours ago

      There is an evil witch that lives underground in the Moon and who is mind-controlling non-Rightwing votes in the US so that they don’t vote. Show me were I’m wrong.

      The easiest thing in the World is to come up with a wild-ass theory without backing it with any evidence and then demanding others disprove it - I do believe that’s even a 4chan special.

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        6 hours ago

        Donald Trump won the election in 2016 over Hilary Clinton. How much more evidence do you need that people should have done more to defeat Donald and the GOP?

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          That’s as much “evidence” for your original “two sides” theory as it is for my “witch in the Moon” theory.

          Also you’ve moved the goalposts to a self-fullfilling and generic to the point of uselessness statement “people should have done more to defeat Donald and the GOP”.

          That’s like saying that “all drivers in car crashes should have done more not to crash their cars”.

          Well, true, but also about as worthless as “insights” go as “the sky is blue”.

          Also by blaming people you’re implying that “the system works and is fair” hence the fault is entirelly of people who have full agency and control. I’m afraid that things like the partisan support in the US for Genocide or the extreme level of police violence show that “people” don’t really have full agency or even much control - in fact I could spend the whole day listing how most people don’t really have much in the way of control of how the US is managed, though granted those wo do have most of the control are people (unless one subscribes to the theory that the ultra-rich are lizard-men).

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            6 hours ago

            Let’s turn it around.

            What’s your plan? How do you propose to get Trump out? Be very specific.

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              6 hours ago

              Trump is a symptom, not the disease.

              By worring so much about the puppet instead of the puppet masters, you’re playing into the hands of the handful of people who control the politics of the US and hence the US.

              Go after the real power of the land: the ultra-wealthy.

              A General Strike would be a good start.

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                lol! You demand specifics and plans, and then throw out two words. “General strike.”

                Details, please. Who is the leader? What is the date? What are your demands? How are you going to handle invalids and homebound folks who need food and meds delivered? Schools open or close?

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                  By exactly using the MAGA the technique of, after ranting about blaming everybody else but yourself about all maner of problems, “asking” for others to provide solutions only to criticize them when given them, you’ve just proved what I suspected, so thanks for that.

                  Whatever is the way to solve the US problems, it’s the very opposite of that “criticized everything and everybody” shit that you, EXACTLY LIKE THE FAR-RIGHT POPULISTS are doing - that shit is literaly “how to divide people and make them believe there is no option other than compliance” out of the Authoritarian Playbook

                  Being a fucking rock, literally, does more towards solving the situation in the US than what you are doing.

                  Whether because you’re a sock-puppet or because you’re the ultimate useful idiot, you are part of the problem, not of the solution.

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                    By exactly using the MAGA the technique of, after ranting about blaming everybody else but yourself about all maner of problems, “asking” for others to provide solutions only to criticize them when given them, you’ve just proved what I suspected, so thanks for that.

                    You realize you’re literally describing exactly what you did. You demanded details then couldn’t come up with anything but a pipe dream.

                    And if I’m doing what MAGA did, what is the problem? Patton was the general the Germans feared the most, because he fought exactly the way they did.

                    And I love the last line. If I am the problem, what is the solution? Again, give me a lot of details.

                    Things like who is going to organize this general strike?

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      19 hours ago

      You’re wrong by blaming the fictional non voting left for all your woes. Don’t be stupid.

      It’s very simple. 36% of people didn’t vote on average. What percent of those people are leftists? If you don’t have that information, then you’re making shit up and demanding other people prove it for you.