• ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    There are some folks who want to accelerate the total reset and maybe create a UBI. Those are the Dark Enlightment folks (sometimes Dark MAGA), and they are called neoreactionary accelerationist. The intentional destruction of the US gov is the acceleration of the reset that you mention. These are a bit different from the Heritage Foundation and mostly tech bros. They are considered far right, but I’m far left and can’t help but see a lot of truth in some of what they say. I’ve had the same opinion you have for 20 years now, that it would be better to just let this all fall so we can hurry up and rebuild our economy into something that is not a plane with locked engines falling straight out of the sky. I totally know what you mean.

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      Yep yep yep.

      Except… for those folks, UBI is basically viewed the way a promised feature is in a highly scalable app.

      That is to say, entirely optional, subject to terms and conditions, subject to market conditions… likely just a marketing gimmick that only a few naive truely believers think was ever really seriously on the table.

      What they actually want is technofeudalism.

      Ironically, I would basically describe myself politically as an Anarchist.

      But… I am actually entirely terrified by the idea of just suddenly collapsing the entire economy without very, very solid plans in place for the transition, and the future.

      If done poorly…literally billions could die, or be made into slaves.

      I am all for detaching yourself from the capitalist death machine as much as possible, setting up alternate systems, mutual aid, co-ops, etc…

      But if you just pull the legs out of the entire economy all at oncr and let it freefall… that’ll be the layman’s idea of anarchy: total fucking mad max / fallout style chaos.

      20 years ago, we might have been able to do something like collapse neoliberalism entirely… you know, back around when Seattle rioted againt the WTO.

      Its too late now, it would be way, way way too hard to just pivot suddenly back to much less global trade and more autarkic societies.

      Farming alone is a nightmare to try to imagine that for.

      On the other hand, climate change will basically cause that same economic near total collapse in most places within 20 years, by my reading of projected future impacts.

      So uh yeah, we’re just fucked, unless we somehow have a massive revolution and also a very competently executed plan to transition the economy off oil … and that scenario is nearly impossibly unlikely.