Well, parliament isn’t a circus. Shouldn’t be, at least.
Is the Haka an act performed in circuses?
Parliament has strict rules around decorum, and with good reason, the place would be total chaos without them.
And the punishment is harsh, but there’s never been a group of people before with such disdain for the establishment they represent their constituents within.
Parliament has strict rules around decorum
Bullshit. If there are any rules they are not applied fairly or uniformly.
And the punishment is harsh, but there’s never been a group of people before with such disdain for the establishment they represent their constituents within.
You are a lying sack of shit. There have been tremendous amount of distain for the parliament by other people and parties. Learn some fucking history you zealot.
I know this is the internet, but when will you two communicate constructively? (My point is each of you tend to be unhelpfully inflammatory. Trollish, even…).
Perhaps if you brought some examples it might help your argument?
That’s all I’ll say.
Tagging @ilovethebomb@lemmy.nz so it’s not all on ballpeen
Just FYI, I’ve had ballpeen blocked for probably over a year. They never have anything insightful or useful to say, and I see no benefit to even seeing their comments.
I recommend doing the same.
LOL. Block all you want. I will be here to call your racism and right wing batshittery every time I see it.
such disdain
That’s a thought crime.
Suspension is supposed to punish actual actions, that are breeches e.g. fistfights, criticising the speaker, stepping to someone and telling them to “stand up” for a fight, etc.
The physical actions currently being punished are not 7x worse than anything else on record (e.g. all the above).
As for disdain, it’s also arguably disdainful to our democratic system to completely abandon the scale/tradition of punishments that have been handed out during the entire history of our Parliament.
They deliberately and intentionally disrupted the process of Parliament, by actions that were planned ahead of time. Even Chris Hipkins hasn’t defended their actions, only saying he feels the punishment was overly harsh.
Disrupted the process by a couple of minutes. Big whoop. The process didn’t end, nothing was cancelled and you shouldn’t believe the lie that the TMP prevented ACT from voting. That was a libel told by the National party which should be punishable by a much higher level.
The punishment was purely based on racism. If any other party had done this they wouldn’t be punished this bad.
I don’t think anyone disputes that they intentionally disrupted the process of Paliament.
I too am pointing out that the punishment is overly disproportionate.
I also think if you want a harsher penalty than a few days’ suspension, it should not be one that comes at the expense of the constituency, as this one does.
