Btw isnt this also true vice versa? With the way technology is today(even disregarding nuclear) you could completely destroy your oponents navy if you have hypersonic missiles which, if i understand correctly, a lot of countries have considering how effective they are
Not sure what they can do. I seen to remember Russia shooting 6 of these at Ukraine in 2023 and then being shot down. I assume they must be different?
Hypersonic missiles could destroy every major city in the US in 20 minutes. Just have to put a nuclear warhead in them. The US is deploying hypersonic missiles too. This doesn’t change anything except that in the case of Armageddon we will have half as much time to find someone to bang before we die.
Why does this feel like they want to throw even more money at the military industrial complex?
I think the Chinese Mach 10 Yj-21 hypersonic missile should send pretty much any carrier group to hell if they have 2 or 3 of the type 055 destroyers launching them at once.
Given any carrier battles probably happening in the Tawain strait I’d expect the land based and fighter based missiles would be launched as well so yeah I give the US really no chance of winning that one as things stand.
I think the US badly needs the same type of missile but they seem to be only getting failures, I read earlier in the week they’d cancelled another (Halo).
Don’t get me wrong I’m sure the US could launch enough of their own LRASMs (stealth anti ship missile) to do some damage back but they’d likely not survive to see the result or get that many planes airborne to launch them.
This guy can’t even name a single country in ASEAN but is giving advice on china, a neighbour of ASEAN. https://www.channelnewsasia.com/commentary/trump-defence-secretary-pete-hegseth-cannot-name-asean-country-4862576
Russia can wipe out US in 15mins using all their nukes in a suicide attack. worry about Russia first. Defeat russia in Ukraine first.
“Russian army underwhelmingly unprepared and weak according to Chinese POW” lol
You are right, Ukraine would have gotten back their territories if russia were unprepared and weak. This POW will pay for insulting Ukraine army as being weaker than russia weak useless army.
I mean… Russia would own Ukraine by year three of this war and wouldn’t be using WW2 munitions if they were prepared and strong. There’s something to be said about the Russian military preparedness
“We need to enslave and control the population to survive against a perceived or projected foreign enemy.” Translation from Trump cabinet language to English.
Well, since it is basic military doctrine that you should never field a unit that you can’t afford to lose, and the billions in $ losses and thousands of sailor lives means we can’t afford to lose a carrier, this suggests that carriers are now obsolete and should be retired.
Nah its just that they need longer ranged hypersonic missiles themselves but have been failing, so yeah China has a huge lead now.
US just needs new missiles and new missile destroyers to join th carrier group.
From now on you must view all of their words and actions through the lens of a fascist dictatorship. This is almost certainly propaganda intended to increase fear of Chinese supremacy and using that fear as an excuse to invade Panama.
I hard doubt the US doesn’t have classified hypersonic missile tech, and even if they don’t, this admin won’t stop maintaining, building, or deploying these “vulnerable” billion dollar aircraft carriers. Everything conservatives and DOGE cut is everything that benefits the working class, and increases their quality of life and economic mobility. They never cut anything that enables their authoritarian capabilities.
Don’t forget how they were able to slap a basically poor-only tax with their tariff bullshit.
I hard doubt the US doesn’t have classified hypersonic missile tech…
The HACM (Hypersonic Attack Cruise Missile) is already out there.
Propaganda can be true sometimes. That the cutting edge of missile tech has been well ahead of the cutting edge of missile defense has been an open secret for at least a decade. It might not be as fast as twenty minutes, but the truth is there is nothing that anybody can do about the most advanced missiles being made today apart from hoping that they miss. The problem with carriers is that they are big, slow targets. Every carrier has this problem, not just the US fleet.
Weren’t there some wargames a few decades ago where some group playing the “terrorists” sank a US carrier with nothing but a few speedboats and some RPGs or something similar? I am thinking of the one where they “rolled back” the wargame. It has been quite a while since I read that so I don’t remember all the details.
Millennium Challenge 2002. That was a boondoggle. Yes the opposing force won and they had to reset the game but the OPFOR was up to some ridiculous shenanigans. For instance instead of using radios, which could be intercepted and tracked, they used motorcycles to convey messages…motorcycles that could travel at the speed of light.
Another piece of silliness is that there were commercial vessels (non-combatants) on the virtual water but OPFOR sometimes used them in ways that were impossible. As an example radar would return a 12 foot fishing boat and then that boat would launch four 20 foot long anti-ship missiles.
Then there’s whole idea of a CBG just hanging around shore for days on end staying inside a pre-determined box so that OPFOR always knew their location, something that almost certainly not happen in an IRL conflict.
The Commander of the Opposing Force was extremely clever but they needed a long list of nearly impossible to achieve advantages to make it work.
You are thinking of this:
I remember reading that as well, but I recall CWIS wasn’t turned on for some reason.
there is nothing that anybody can do about the most advanced missiles being made today apart from hoping that they miss
You can help them miss. If they’re using GPS navigation, jamming works. It then reverts to inertial navigation though, so the longer you jam - the bigger the error.
Or you could try shooting it down, I doubt they can even dodge a head-on intercept without losing a load of energy.
edit: btw the problem you’re describing is why cbg is a thing
I mean, carriers in this modern age probably are mostly sitting ducks against any modern adversary. They could barely take on Yemen.
If your adversary has satellites that can tell them where you are and a sufficient amount of missiles / torpedoes, there’s only so much you can do.
This is absolutely true. Carriers are very vulnerable to advanced anti-ship missiles. But people with staunch political views have alternative truths they prefer to see propagated, so you’ve been punished.
Someone should tell interestingengineering.com who Pete Hegseth is because obviously they haven’t been paying attention for the last few months.
China can kill us. We need more money for war. (Has the biggest and most expensive military in the world) SMH
I’ve heard bullshit before. This sounds exactly like that
How the hell would this guy know? He’s not qualified to run a game of RISK much less comment on anything that really involves defense
What do you mean? This is the secretary of defence, a highly qualified post that…
…oh, oh no. Wow, you guys have problems.I can’t even keep track of which positions have the dumbest trump appointments. They’re pretty much everywhere at this point.
Can we do a competition? I thought Tulsi would’ve been hard to beat, but Walz came from behind in the signal chat incident.
But, you see, he looks like a secretary of defense, so therefore he must be an excellent one!
He looks like his mom dresses him.
Hegseth himself is a bigger threat to the US than China will ever be.
Why would they bother when Trump is going to sink the whole country?
Never interrupt the enemy when he is making a mistake.
China watching the Houthis fail to hit a single ship with a 30 missile salvo:
Even with supersonic anti ship missiles, successfully attacking the US navy is notoriously difficult, to the point that they’ve actually averted invading Taiwan unless some golden opportunity falls into their lap.
