Just a heads up to those who host. Piefed has been doing some work to keep the sanity of their admins. I’m thinking of removing dms from my instances just because of all this.

  • Ulrich@feddit.orgEnglish
    152·
    3 days ago

    I’m strongly in favor of removing DMs on all platforms and asking users to add direct contact info to their user profiles. Email, chat apps, whatever.

    It’s been fairly obvious that there were additional spam mitigations needed in the Fediverse, and especially Lemmy. I mean what’s to prevent a bad actor from spinning up thousands of accounts on various servers and using them to manipulate votes and spam messages?

    I’m afraid if anyone decided to do that that ActivityPub is inherently flawed in such a way that there would be no way to prevent it.

    Nicole is, in a way, doing the Fediverse a favor.

    • Cătă@mstdn.ro
      1·
      14 hours ago

      @Ulrich Yeah, but then you’ll have normies complain like where are the DMs? where are the DMs?

      Just like it was on Mastodon where DMs were actually a thing, but were not something so straightforward (usually just create a regular post with only the person that you wanted to talk with tagged in there).

      The enshitification is so damn real.

      @mesamunefire

    • Psythik@lemm.eeEnglish
      121·
      3 days ago

      Fuck that; I don’t want to give out any more personal info than I have to. Lemmy just needs to implement a functional spam filter.

      Remove PMs, and comment threads will just be clogged with people having one on one conversations. There’s gotta be a better way.

      • Ulrich@feddit.orgEnglish
        6·
        3 days ago

        I don’t want to give out any more personal info than I have to

        You don’t have to.

        1. You can opt out of giving any information whatsoever, just no one will be able to DM you
        2. You can create a profile on chat platforms to be paired with your online profile.

        comment threads will just be clogged with people having one on one conversations.

        I don’t see that happening, personally. Like we could be having this convo 1-1 right now but we aren’t.

        • Psythik@lemm.eeEnglish
          4·
          3 days ago

          But I want to be able to PM, and I don’t want to have to use a 3rd party service that not every Lemmy user will use to be able to do so.

          • tpyo@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            3 days ago

            I agree with you (and also somewhat with the other people, too)

            I want to keep some accounts completely separate from my other accounts, and also don’t want to set up a whole other set of accounts to keep them separate

            E.g., on Reddit I would keep certain conversations on reddit only (but used a 3rd party app mostly so I never saw the chats, just dm/pms)

    • mesa@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      5·
      3 days ago

      Yeah if someone needs to reach me via mastodon/lemmy/etc…they can take their time to use other platforms. DMs without any spam detection is a recipe for disaster. As is the case for any messaging in the last 30 years.