I downvoted it because someone living in Canada for 25 years and not getting their citizenship, it’s their fault. They should understand the risks of leaving Canada if they don’t have full citizenship.
I have empathy for people who are put in awful situations, not people who taking risky actions. Some people just can’t be helped. For example:
The Ottawa resident planned to be in England for five days in mid-March to make arrangements for her ailing mother, bringing along eight days worth of drugs to manage her diabetes and auto-immune disease.
I’ve seen advice that you should take up to 30-60 extra days of medication when traveling abroad, just in case.
She’s in the country of her sole-citizenship. This is part of the process when you put off finalizing paperwork for 2+ decades. Both the UK and Canada allow for dual citizenship.
So if you neglected your paperwork for something, you wouldn’t help one of your family? Seems incredibly callous.
Stuff happens. Life happens. Paperwork is forgotten, sometimes id is lost , stolen, etc. What happened to that woman isn’t illegal for her, something could have been done to help.
Put yourself in that woman’s shoes for just one second.
So if you neglected your paperwork for something, you wouldn’t help one of your family? Seems incredibly callous.
I’m not sure what you are trying to say here?
Stuff happens. Life happens. Paperwork is forgotten, sometimes id is lost , stolen, etc. What happened to that woman isn’t illegal for her, something could have been done to help.
And she’s in the country she has citizenship for. They can help.
Put yourself in that woman’s shoes for just one second.
I’m having a hard time with this, because I don’t know how I’d end up in her situation. She says Canada is her home, but hasn’t apply for citizenship for over 2 decades (it’s legal to have dual UK & Canadian citizenship). She goes on an overseas trip, but only brings 3 extra days of lifesaving medication. She’s offered a loophole to get home(enter through a land border), but doesn’t take it. She is a specialist in crisis management, but can’t manage this crisis.
I don’t think it applies in this case, but depending on the medication and country in question, taking extra is not always recommended. My kid and I both take medication that’s restricted in the US, for example, and when we’ve traveled there it’s been with an exact trip-length supply. Bringing extra, especially a lot extra, can mean having all of it confiscated if border guards or police decide you’re dealing.
So you think someone should somehow just get citizenship just because they’ve stayed there for long enough? Many countries do not approve of dual citizenship, and so most people would have to give up on their original citizenship to become a Canadian citizen. That’s not something to be taken lightly of. People have relationships in their home country, and they might lose easy access to their home country by forfeiting their citizenship and getting a Canadian one. How they get taxed in their original country also changes, and might also be detrimental to their finances depending on how much business and investment they’re conducting. What about having to take care of family?
And even if they don’t have any of those, you may live in a foreign country for 25 years, but you might not have thought of the new country as home, and that could be the case for various reasons, some of which may be bad ones, but there are good reasons as well.
So, like the other comment said, you’re showing a great lack of empathy, but tbf, you might not be aware of these considerations someone has to think about while deciding whether getting that citizenship is worth it.
as a uk citizen she can have dual citizenship with Canada
she does consider Canada her home
she’s a uk citizen in the uk with a national health service (a slightly more comprehensive health service than Canada as prescription meds are heavily subsidized), any hospital or family doctor would have helped her for free.
I do sympathize for her situation, having anything stolen is bad enough without it happening in a foreign country. But I don’t understand why this is a dire enough story to make it newsworthy. A British citizen, in Britain ran out of meds.
Yes and they are making seem more urgent/desperate because she has run out of her diabetes meds. I’m sure there are a lot of people struggling to deal with government processes each day, this isn’t really news. It all seems to come down to a button on a web page not working as expected.
If she’s not a Canadian citizen yet, then she would had to fly using her British passport, there’s no mention of that being stolen, I’m sure that means she can fly back to Canada. If she can’t for some reason, then the meds issue is easily resolved in Britain.
I downvoted it because someone living in Canada for 25 years and not getting their citizenship, it’s their fault. They should understand the risks of leaving Canada if they don’t have full citizenship.
So zero empathy then.
I have empathy for people who are put in awful situations, not people who taking risky actions. Some people just can’t be helped. For example:
I’ve seen advice that you should take up to 30-60 extra days of medication when traveling abroad, just in case.
She’s in the country of her sole-citizenship. This is part of the process when you put off finalizing paperwork for 2+ decades. Both the UK and Canada allow for dual citizenship.
So zero empathy then.
Holy shit. Tell me you read the article.
I did. Twice, so I could make that comment. What makes you think I didn’t read the article?
So if you neglected your paperwork for something, you wouldn’t help one of your family? Seems incredibly callous.
Stuff happens. Life happens. Paperwork is forgotten, sometimes id is lost , stolen, etc. What happened to that woman isn’t illegal for her, something could have been done to help.
Put yourself in that woman’s shoes for just one second.
I’m not sure what you are trying to say here?
And she’s in the country she has citizenship for. They can help.
I’m having a hard time with this, because I don’t know how I’d end up in her situation. She says Canada is her home, but hasn’t apply for citizenship for over 2 decades (it’s legal to have dual UK & Canadian citizenship). She goes on an overseas trip, but only brings 3 extra days of lifesaving medication. She’s offered a loophole to get home(enter through a land border), but doesn’t take it. She is a specialist in crisis management, but can’t manage this crisis.
I don’t think it applies in this case, but depending on the medication and country in question, taking extra is not always recommended. My kid and I both take medication that’s restricted in the US, for example, and when we’ve traveled there it’s been with an exact trip-length supply. Bringing extra, especially a lot extra, can mean having all of it confiscated if border guards or police decide you’re dealing.
So you think someone should somehow just get citizenship just because they’ve stayed there for long enough? Many countries do not approve of dual citizenship, and so most people would have to give up on their original citizenship to become a Canadian citizen. That’s not something to be taken lightly of. People have relationships in their home country, and they might lose easy access to their home country by forfeiting their citizenship and getting a Canadian one. How they get taxed in their original country also changes, and might also be detrimental to their finances depending on how much business and investment they’re conducting. What about having to take care of family?
And even if they don’t have any of those, you may live in a foreign country for 25 years, but you might not have thought of the new country as home, and that could be the case for various reasons, some of which may be bad ones, but there are good reasons as well.
So, like the other comment said, you’re showing a great lack of empathy, but tbf, you might not be aware of these considerations someone has to think about while deciding whether getting that citizenship is worth it.
You should also be aware that:
I do sympathize for her situation, having anything stolen is bad enough without it happening in a foreign country. But I don’t understand why this is a dire enough story to make it newsworthy. A British citizen, in Britain ran out of meds.
Isn’t the issue here that she can’t re-enter Canada, and IRCC seems to refuse helping her?
Yes and they are making seem more urgent/desperate because she has run out of her diabetes meds. I’m sure there are a lot of people struggling to deal with government processes each day, this isn’t really news. It all seems to come down to a button on a web page not working as expected.
If she’s not a Canadian citizen yet, then she would had to fly using her British passport, there’s no mention of that being stolen, I’m sure that means she can fly back to Canada. If she can’t for some reason, then the meds issue is easily resolved in Britain.