• Dr. Wesker@lemmy.sdf.orgM
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      Transracialism has way more merit than transpeciesism, though.

      I grew up amongst hispanic families, and definitely don’t find it far fetched to identify with a different race, culturally and behaviorally. So I could see it, even though it might be a bit misplaced.

      Like, that’s at least based in reality.

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        But simply feeling Black or Hispanic doesn’t make one Black or Hispanic; race is a cultural issue and culturally defined. Yet by the other commenter’s arguments, feeling Black or Hispanic would be enough to make them unquestionably valid, because we cannot question the feelings of others.

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          My only point is that transracialism could at least be argued as having a real world basis, rooted in complex experiences of culture and race.

          Identifying as a dragon, not so much…

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        I didn’t realize TERFs often compared trans-species delusions to transracialism.

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            It’s close because it… includes a comparison to transracialism somewhere?

            Is any comparison to transracialism in any context TERF now? Because that’s the extent of the argument being presented.

            Fucking ridiculous. Just throwing out labels and badjacketing in the hopes that it’ll stick.

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              No, because the weaponization of race as a point of comparison to gender is done so specifically because of it’s historical context - even though it is just as much of a social construct.

              It’s apples and oranges, but if apples had been enslaved on the basis of not being bananas for centuries, and oranges were being accused of not being a real fruit at all.

              Get over yourself. It’s not for you to decide what identities are legitimate or not.

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                No, because the weaponization of race as a point of comparison to gender is done so specifically because of it’s historical context - even though it is just as much of a social construct.

                Everything is a social construct, genius.

                It’s apples and oranges, but if apples had been enslaved on the basis of not being bananas for centuries, and oranges were being accused of not being a real fruit at all.

                The fuck.

                Get over yourself. It’s not for you to decide what identities are legitimate or not.

                No, that’s for you and your ilk to decide, of course, and to call anyone who disagrees fascists and transphobes.

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                  No, that’s for you and your ilk to decide, of course, and to call anyone who disagrees fascists and transphobes.

                  I haven’t called you a transphobe, at worst I accused you of being exclusionary, which as far as I can tell is actually what you are trying to be

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                    I haven’t called you a transphobe,

                    No, you just JAQ off with innocent statements like “Isn’t that what TERFs say???” with absurd points of comparison, like “You mentioned transracialism”

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      Historical or modern?

      Or that the modern usage has some scientific basis, and its still being explored?

      Short answer - its a subject thats still being explored but has a degree of scientific support, so I see no reason to be mean about it.

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        Short answer - its a subject thats still being explored but has a degree of scientific support, so I see no reason to be mean about it.

        What the ever-loving fuck

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          Princeton, about ten years ago. I’ll dig up the materials tomorrow if you want.

          Like I said, I like reading scientific materials.

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              I think we took very different things from his book then.

              Because I took away that there are people who genuinely believe it to be true for them. And since I don’t go around referring to people by their race, or interact with people based on their racial identity, I don’t have any reason to get myself involved beyond an “OK”.