The shitshow in the Whitehouse yesterday really brought it to light - the U.S. can no longer be trusted with our secrets. Its time to leave 5 eyes. I would create a new intelligence sharing union with the other 3 members, on condition that they also leave. Inviting France and other EU states might also make sense.
Maybe we could group together with other countries in the same continent as us and grow stronger bonds with them. You could even make it easier for trade to go between such countries by sharing some common laws amongst one another. Another wild idea is that if some countries are struggling to get people to work on certain industries, we could make it easier for people within this group to work between different countries.
Could call it the Group of Europe or something similar.
Yeah but if you value the cultural diversity of Europe why would you want to see it homogenised under one corporatist banner? Why should diversity be reduced to the special designation of a few products such as stilton and champagne?
What is right for the UK might not be right for the Republic of Ireland, what is right for Greece might not be right for Germany, What is right for France might not be right for Italy. Why should laws be drafted by completely unknown people in Brussels and applied to everybody?
Ultimately, why shouldn’t people all across Europe have self-determination and autonomy? Don’t we need more devolution not less?
Could we achieve this, and have free movement of people? Yeah, but not under what the E became. It certainly requires that people from poorer countries aren’t used as basically scab/cheap labour to undermine pay and conditions of local workers of whatever origin.
Anyway, enough of that. What should best be considered a warning shot of future fascism was all sorted out about a decade ago. Hopefully UK society took note of the disaffection amongst the people that voted to leave the EU, looked at exactly what was bothering them, and, if they had good reason to be pissed off, addressed it!
What? They did fuck all but try and reverse the vote for years, terribly undermining the UK’s negotiating position, then ignored the issues voters had thus opening the door for the reform party?
Oh right.
Downvote away but you can’t downvote reality. We can still stop the fascists getting power in the UK, but not without addressing any legitimate issues reform voters have. Brexit should have been taken as a warning shot. It still isn’t.
The fascists were the ones wanting Brexit though because they knew they couldn’t make Britain the way they wanted it under the EU. And all of the bickering of trying to reverse that and undermine Brexit were just attempts to make sure we weren’t just falling down into fascism, but we’ve only just delayed it. Fight ain’t over yet.
You are completely missing the point. As long as you remain unable to deal with the actual issues facing people who will vote reform (never mind demonising them) you make reform’s rise inevitable.
I think you’re attacking me on a front I was not manning.
You are mistaken again.
Its frustrating to see people down vote this due to cooky cutter propaganda but as a socialist party member I agree the European unions was a bad idea and the uk government willfully join even against the wants of the British people. This a forgotten part of uk history.
axis powers would be more accurate
Did you learn history in bizarro world?
It was a joke…mostly.
I’m well aware none of them were in that alliance.
OTOH they are pretty much near fascist.
Axis of evil is more fitting, atlhough it’s what they use to demonise countries they don’t like.
In the darkest timeline, the US, Russia, and China will be the new axis.
Like Kissinger said: “America has no permanent friends or enemies, only interests”
The other 2 powers know better than to trust the snake so that will never happen.
China, sure, ok. Russia needs a powerful friend after they’ve shown themselves to be a paper tiger, and used half their military to fail in taking a fairly poor european country. They remain a pariah, I’m not even going to count North Korea. So that leaves the US.
I don’t think you got that right.
Russia has a high level of autarchy.
Even then, one of the effects of the ‘sanctions’ is they have gotten a mutually beneficial relationship with China.
While being a poor and corrupt country, the amount of military gear they had before the war (with Russia not the one in the east) was massive.
No European country had more tanks than them.
Among the first in everything except for naval stuff.
Also their huge military 600000 and more reserves (3x UK or France) got nato training and equipment.
With all the weapons NATO kept sending, foreign mercs (“volunteers”) and all the sanctions they tried I would say NATO is the paper tiger.
They can’t even keep up with arms production.
Also Russia not a pariah. It is about 50 countries of about 200 that ‘sanctions’ them.
Plenty of them tiny European ones,
The rest of the world doesn’t care, the EU or US leaders can keep calling themselves ‘the international community’ or ‘the free world’ all they want They’re 10% of the world and their weight is less and less in the new world. And that will only get worse.
Russia grows in GDP, Europe suffers because of it.
I assume that since you use ‘paper tiger’ and parrot other western media clichés you have consumed too much MSM and believe their BS.
It took them a long time to even acknowledge they weren’t going to beat the Russians.
All the wishful thinking and cope isn’t going to change reality.