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  • Mister_Feeny@fedia.io
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    17 hours ago

    The literal rest of my life will be spent trying to fuck over America and Americans.

    As an American, I’d just like to say we absolutely deserve this.

    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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      7 hours ago

      No we don’t. Trump deserves to be kicked to the curb, but Americans are absolutely fine, if a bit short sighted.

      A country is not its leadership, it’s the people. And it’s incredibly hard for the people to replace their leadership outside of election season, and even then, there’s a lot of pressure to make poor choices on your ballot.

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        6 hours ago

        it’s incredibly hard for the people to replace their leadership outside of election season

        What have you tried? Have you written any letters? Protested? Marched? Gone on strike?

        There’s a whole lot of defeatism in your comment and I’m getting major “we’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas” vibes.

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          12 minutes ago

          letters aren’t going to do anything, neither will striking.

          The current System does not legally give many ways to impeach an elected official.

          It is impossible to legally remove a president from power outside of election season without the legislative branch.

          Furthermore, there is no federal level system in place to allow for a recall of anyone in the legislative branch, some states have successfully implemented state level recall laws to revoke their elected officials but this is not a universal thing). Disciplinary functions in the legislative branch is predominantly decided by the branches themselves, which works fine if you have a functional branch, but if you have a branch that really doesn’t care then no punishments get done

          The most the everyday citizen can really do is:

          1. if you are in a state that has an elected official that is being toxic/against what your state actually wants, try to encourage a state recall petition (if you are in one of the 36(12 of which need specific actions to occur to trigger it) states that allow for it AND something has occurred that was ground for your states requirements for it)
          2. try to add such a system to your state if one does not exist (which would likely have to be on the ballot as well so would take awhile)
          3. or further educate yourself on what is going to be available on the 2026 midterms and vote accordingly.

          I don’t think there is much else anyone can immediately do that might actually get anything done.

        • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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          1 hour ago

          I’m in a red state with GOP reps. I really don’t think any of those will go anywhere.

          And not sure what going on strike would accomplish. My company isn’t based in the US, my boss isn’t American (and likes Trump), and 2/3 of my team are outside of the US anyway. I like my company and my boss, and going on strike would just get me fired for no reason. Why would I do that? My company didn’t donate to him or anything, so how would pissing my boss off accomplish anything?

          The only effective measures I have would put my family at risk, and those have a remote chance of working. Why would I do that? It’s illogical, especially when the chances of Trump actually becoming a dictator are slim to none.

          I’m not going to screw up my life just for some internet cred. I’ll do what I did in the last three elections: vote against him and urge those around me to do the same. Not that it matters, because the Republican will always win my state and district, but it’s something.

          The most effective use of my time is to largely ignore him. Anything else is illogical IMO.

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      10 hours ago

      All Amerikans deserve this and worse because they sit at home and complain online while a literal textbook definition of a coup is happening to their country. The country that literally screeches at the top of its lungs about the second amendment and right to have a gun “in case of a tyrannical government”. Not a single shot fired. No protests, just complaints. Y’all gave up your country without a fight.

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        We’re definitely protesting. It may not make international news, but every day there are angry crowds outside government buildings or in the streets of our cities. The last I went to was this past Monday in NY and there were at least a few thousand of us. Personally I think we need more serious measures but protesting is a start.

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          4 hours ago

          I’ve gone out of my way to look for coverage of any sort of protesting. I saw a single day of scattered small-medium protests called 50501 or something a couple weeks ago. That’s it. Angry crowds in front of government buildings doesn’t sound like serious protests given the sheer amount of what’s been going on in that country.

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            I hear you, and I agree there’s a lot more that needs to be done. I can say with some confidence that the average American doesn’t want any of this in the slightest, even if the average American isn’t as politically engaged as they need to be to truly understand the global implications.

            The truth is that the average American is mostly thinking about immediate problems in their own life, like how to pay both their rent and their phone bill and still afford gas to get to the grocery store where many staples are increasingly expensive.

            Even something as important as voting or protesting can feel like a privilege for the well-off when it’s the choice between that and working a shift to pay bills, and of course voting has been made deliberately difficult in most states. Voter registration isn’t automatic, for example. Likewise Election Day isn’t a National Holiday, so many people have to take off work if they don’t plan ahead to register, apply to vote absentee and meet deadlines for ballot mail-in.

            Basically I’m just trying to encourage you to remember your neighbors are normal people who actually do value being good neighbors. They are oppressed and deceived, however, and a small portion of them are straight up brainwashed by a cult.

            I hope, trust, and believe that when the chips fall, people in this country will answer the call to fight the global oppressors for themselves and others, because deep down they know that we’re all in this together. First they must lift their heads and see, a difficult process which I think has finally begun.

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              1 hour ago

              Look I know you mean well and you have a lot of faith and love for your people and that reflects really well on you.

              What I gather from your message is that people don’t like this but also don’t have a sense of urgency but you are strong in your faith that at the last minute there will be a sudden moment where everyone will leap into action to stop the worst. Things don’t work that way.

              There is an active coup of your country right now at this moment. It’s maybe not clear to you as a citizen because you’re inside the boiling pot but to those outside, these things don’t happen without being a coup. Yall even have a constitutional amendment for this exact moment.