Regular users in Sweden are in danger because a corporation needs to fill their pockets. Studios are suing your ISPs to get to you.

Use I2P. It will hide your IP address (among the many things it can do), afford you more privacy and allow you to torrent freely, even without a VPN/seedbox. The catch? You’ll have to add the I2P trackers to your torrent.

I believe I2P is the way forward for piracy and I look forward to it getting bigger than it already is.

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    A proper VPN provider is sufficient to protect against this though. If you, as a Swedish citizen, weren’t already using a VPN, you were being an idiot.

    I mean, it still makes sense to also use I2P, but it is currently not good enough as a full replacement.

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      A VPN company can easily give up your details to the police who are now actively going after citizens. VPNs are not enough anymore.

      Is there a problem with I2P adoption? I’m sensing a massive lack of interest from this thread

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        If there are no logs, there is nothing to give up. There is no law that they have to keep logs as far as I know.

        Don’t get me wrong, I’m interested in i2p. Thanks for posting.

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          The point is that logs are generated and then deleted but companies who do not wish to keep such logs (e.g. IP address of client who connects to the VPN). I2P sure to it’s design, doesn’t even generate such incriminating logs (it might generate other kinds of logs which is a different discussion).

          Thanks

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          If there are no logs, there is nothing to give up. There is no law that they have to keep logs as far as I know.

          You have to trust that the VPN provider doesn’t store logs. I2P is pretty much trustless besides where the binary comes from, but you can even compile it yourself.

          Anti Commercial-AI license

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            Mullvad is trustworthy (imho, and because of audits).

            Anyway, you can have both, and run purple i2p with blackjack and torrents!

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        I admit that I’m skeptical since everyone is a node. It probably is fine, but I don’t know the risks that I take by volunteering as a node. I thought that VPNs can be fine as long as they don’t store logs, but I could be mistaken.

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          VPNs usually do store your IP when you connect to them, even if they delete it later (it is technically impossible to not know the IP address of whoever is connecting to the VPN). And the likes of Mullvad and IVPN do not allow port-forwarding.

          I will repeat what I said to the other commenter: please read the documentation. Being a router doesn’t mean that traffic and its contents can be linked to your identity. Data is broken down into chunks and encrypted along with metadata being scrambled. Unless there’s a zero day I’m unaware of, you are perfectly safe.

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      The OG I2P program is written in Java, which might show behavior like you mentioned (didn’t stop immediately when stopping the service).

      Please try I2PD, it’s written in C++

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      similar yes but not the same. tor held together by volunteer that run nodes, i2p everyone is a node. tor good for clearnet things, i2p good for in-network things. torrenting in i2p is good for i2p, not tor. torrenting in i2p stays in the i2p network, doesn’t go through exit nodes. there’s only about 3 of those. it’s torrenting as a darknet hidden service.

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        I tried to find the answer to this in i2p docs, maybe you would know more

        As I understand, i2p traffic still needs to send packets over TCP/IP, so what stops the nodes you communicate with from knowing your IP? Its the only thing that makes me cagey about it since other p2p services like local game servers require sharing your IP to work. Hoping to get back into torrenting, thanks!

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          Here’s the scary sounding part that can be counterintuitive. The routers you’re communicating with do know your ip, since they have to like you mentioned. Your ip address is also in i2p’s DHT as a “router info” which functions as a network addressbook for routers and services so things can be found without needing a centralized lookup service. Again, because for the network to work, routers need to be able to find eachother, or they can’t communicate.

          But, routers function on a need to know basis. i2p uses separate up and down links for each tunnel, and your side of the tunnel by default has 3 hops. other side usually also has 3 hops. typical unidirectional tunnel looks like this with total of 7 hops:

          A-x-x-x=x-x-x-B

          None of the chains in the link know what position they’re in (except for the endpoints). They also don’t know how long the whole tunnel is. The sender and receiver only know their parts of the tunnel. On the dht side, by design no single router has a whole view of the network, but there isn’t a whole lot of information you get from that other than knowing that person at stated ip address uses i2p, which your isp would be able to tell for example anyway just like using tor or a vpn. There’s no reason to try to obfuscate that except for getting around restrictive countries firewalls.

          The way i made sense of it was like you have an envelope that is inside several other envelopes, with each envelope representing a layer of encryption. You get an envelope from kevin, so you know kevin. You open the envelope and see another envelope addressed to george, you give the envelope to him. So you know kevin and george. But the rest is unknown to you. You don’t know who the true originator of the envelope is or where the message is ultimately going.

          Not a perfect analogy, but because of this the ultimate sender and receiver are blind to each others ip address. It’s layered encryption allowing this to happen which is similar to onion routing. Called garlic routing in i2p since there are some tweaks.

          https://geti2p.net/en/docs/how/garlic-routing

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            So ip is only visible to the first/last hop, and they wouldnt know where youre going. That helps, thanks!