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    2 months ago

    The parties are already there or you couldn’t vote them, this example is stupid. Supporting parties with blood in their hands is endorsing evil.

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      Voting for a third party, like trying to walk through a third door, is an indication of intent. Going through the door would be getting them elected to office.

      And yes, supporting a party would be endorsing whatever evil policies the party supports—but voting isn’t an act of endorsement. Nobody knows how you vote; it has no meaning as a personal statement. Its only meaning is in the differential effects of the policies of the two candidates your vote decides between, in the most likely scenario in which it is the deciding vote.

      You absolutely should support and endorse a party you believe in, but don’t mistake voting in a presidential election for either of those things.

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        Voting is a direct act of endorsement

        Its only meaning is in the differential effects of the policies of the two candidates your vote decides between

        There aren’t only two candidates.

        You absolutely should support and endorse a party you believe in, but don’t mistake voting in a presidential election for either of those things.

        There’s no confusion, a party perpetrating war and genocide is evil and if you support them you are evil too.

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          Voting is a direct act of endorsement

          endorse | verb [with object]
          to declare one’s public approval or support of.

          Your vote is expressly not public—you’re prohibited from keeping or sharing any proof of your vote. In part this is to prevent people from using their votes as signals of anything outside the immediate issue.

          There aren’t only two candidates.

          In the event that your vote actually decides the election, it does so by giving the winner one more vote than the runner-up; at that point those are the only two candidates at issue. And that’s the only event in which your vote matters.

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            Spin it as much as you want. Anyone supporting, endorsing, or voting for a party with blood in his hand fueling a genocide is directly complicit in the crime

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              Go ahead and feel morally superior as your protest vote enables someone way worse to hurt way more people. All the women dying of ectopic pregnancies or sepsis from stillbirths they cannot abort are on you. The GOP will let Russia have Ukraine where they will rape and murder anyone who resists, and they will unconditionally increase funding for Israel’s genocidal land grab.

              And you will think, “that’s not my fault, I voted for the not evil one.”

              But that’s not true, because you could have voted for the person who is willing to negotiate on those things, but you chose to feel better about yourself instead of actually help anyone.