• msage@programming.dev
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    8 hours ago

    Can we like stop copying shit from America?

    We don’t need European tech giants on global scale, that never works out well for the people.

    Also the slow rise of fascism all over the Europe makes me far more worried than the AI race (which is silly, AGI is still far away).

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      7 hours ago

      Yes we do. We’re now in a situation where schools, companies and government agencies are using Google or Microsoft to host their entire organization, and Amazon to host their services. What happens when Trump decides to introduce digital tariffs on these products? Or declare war on Denmark?

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        4 hours ago

        I think you misunderstand the point. Of course we need more technical capabilities in Europe. But we don’t need the companies providing said capabilities to have the influence of Meta, Alphabet and co. And influence comes with size. Replacing a US based monopolist with one headquartered in the EU doesn’t get rid of the monopoly.

        So no, we don’t need an European tech-giant. What we need is more in-house know-how and more medium sized companies.

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        6 hours ago

        Just don’t use them?

        It’s not like there aren’t other options. In fact, it was Microsoft which used money to stop alternatives,

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          1 hour ago

          I’m not in a position to make these decisions on behalf of all companies, schools and government agencies that use their services in my country.

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        6 hours ago

        Block X, Facebook, and never look back.

        It’s not like there aren’t alternatives, or like we need them at all.

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          2 hours ago

          It’s not like there aren’t alternatives

          Things like DeepSeek are exactly the “alternatives” you’re talking about here. DeepSeek provides alternatives to American AIs,

          or like we need them at all.

          People use what they want to use, and lots of people want to use social media. You’re on a social media platform right now as we discuss this.