• Grimy@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    What a shit article, it literally skips the most important part and makes it seem like it was self-defense when it was planned. What happened is grossly misrepresented.

    This is from https://somethingsbrewingcafe.ca/linkpost/460154/ :

    According to police, Kizer traveled armed from Milwaukee to Volar’s home in Kenosha in June 2018. She shot him twice in the head, set fire to his house and took his car.

    He deserved it and it’s sketchy as hell they let him go when they busted him with home made kiddie porn. Regardless, it’s illegal to take matters into your own hands.

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      it’s sketchy as hell they let him go when they busted him with home made kiddie porn.

      The fuck!?!

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        Ummm yea this girl deserves a pay day for doing their job for them not punishment.

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          She can deserve both compensation for suffering and punishment for taking her own action. This is premeditated and she didn’t need to be there, but his actions clearly contributed negatively to her mental state.

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                Vigilantism is immoral

                This is a category error. You wouldn’t say that “kicking is immoral,” or that “driving is immoral.” It just depends what you’re kicking and where you’re driving.

                “Vigilantism” is the extrajudicial pursuit of justice. It involves breaking the law in some random corner of the world. However, none of that has any bearing on morality. The holocaust was legal. Slavery was legal. What the Supreme Court is doing now is legal. That has no bearing on whether it’s moral.

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      That’s not the important part. A jury can ignore all that. The law allows them to look at how she was victimized, and determine that her response was justified in light of the violence committed against her.

      The important part didn’t happen when she killed him in 2018. The important part happened in May, 2024. From wiki:

      On May 9, 2024, Kizer pled guilty to one felony count of second-degree reckless homicide, which carries a maximum sentence of 25 years in prison. On August 19, she was sentenced to 11 years in prison.[10]

      It’s pretty hard for a jury to acquit her when she enters a “guilty” plea.

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        3 months ago

        She pled guilty because she was denied a self defense argument. At which point they’re left with her admitting to shooting him with no legal reason.

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      No you’re just running with the prosecution’s theory of the case.

      The article gives her account, which was denied to her in court as a defense.

      One night, when he wanted to have sex and she brushed him off, she said she fell to the ground and he jumped on top of her, trying to force off her clothes. She shot him twice in the head, and then, the police said, set his body on fire.

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        She first said another women shot him and she didn’t know him, then she said she didn’t remember, then finally the account you mentioned.

        It was also a gun that she brought to his house, it’s hard to pretend it was just a lucky coincidence.

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          Hard to pretend someone in her situation might want protection? Really?

          And if her story was that bad then a jury would see it. Removing her ability to use a self defence argument is just blatant rail roading.

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            She put herself in a position where she needed to use it if that’s what happened. Going to the police or literally not going to his house and doing anything else would have offered her the same protection.

            Guns are suppose to be a last resort, she used it as her first.

            On top off that she burned down the house most likely to hide evidence and then lied about her part in the murder.

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              So did Kyle Rittenhouse. In the exact same town. I wonder why he was able to use self defence and not her?

              And he wasn’t a victim of sex trafficking either.