• tootoughtoremember@lemmy.world
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    24 days ago

    They keep bragging about many Republicans they had on stage. Great, I guess the Democrats are just the Republicans from 10-20 years ago if those speakers find the current Democratic party palatable. I’m sure that will rally people to vote blue like they did in 2008. Was it caving on immigration, peace, and crime what made Obama so popular?

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      24 days ago

      They’re not even Republicans from 10-20 years ago. They’re Republicans from five years ago.

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        24 days ago

        Yes because Republicans from five years ago would definitely have all the largest union leaders and several socialists speaking at their convention.

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          24 days ago

          If they were speaking at the DNC, they were not socialists. They had more Republicans and cops speaking at that convention than marginalized communities.

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            24 days ago

            If they were speaking at the DNC, they were not socialists.

            So Bernie and AOC aren’t socialists now?

            They had more Republicans and cops speaking at that convention than marginalized communities.

            Uh? No they didn’t? Did you even watch the convention? They had a few Republicans and cops who spoke for less than ten minutes each. Meanwhile they had dozens of women of color, and women’s rights were one of the main themes of the entire convention.

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        24 days ago

        Sure is tiresome, people bringing up how the very first time that centrists decided to stand for anything, it was the wholesale slaughter of Palestinians.

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          24 days ago

          Pretty sure the centrists stood for abortion access before making their stance on Palestine clear - remember that time a few days after Biden stepped down when even yall downvoted anything critical of Harris?

          Politicians aren’t a matter of black and white… Harris is a mixed bag… And her election would result in the least number of dead Palestinians out of any of the options. Vote for her if you don’t want to continue advocating for genocide.

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            24 days ago

            Pretty sure the centrists stood for abortion access

            Which is why they codified roe when they had the chance.

            Vote for her if you don’t want to continue advocating for genocide.

            I AM ALREADY VOTING FOR HER. I get that you just want everyone to shut up while we support genocide, but some of us have misgivings about the only thing that any centrist can be counted on to actually stand for.

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              23 days ago

              Hey, I’m sorry people are treating you like shit because they assume being against genocide means you’re not on their side.

              If you decide to actually not be on their side, PSL is running De La Cruz on a platform of Palestinian statehood and an end to weapons shipments to Israel.

              Don’t let this get you down. It’s the same thing as Iraq and Iraq 2.

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    24 days ago

    That’s a weird claim, when the Central Park Five were speakes at the DNC, probably the most well known symbol against death penalty.
    And the democrats have both a presidential candidate and VP candidate that are clearly against the death penalty.

    Download the party program pdf:
    Link to page:
    https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/

    Direct link to download:
    https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/2020-Democratic-Party-Platform.pdf

    Page 38 of the party program:
    >And Democrats continue to support abolishing the death penalty.

    Article is bullshit because the claim in the headline:

    Democrats Abandoned Their Anti-Death Penalty Stance.

    Is easily refuted by the facts of the policies of their candidates.

    And the claim below the headline:

    remove death penalty opposition from their party platform.

    Is evidently false. It’s right there on page 38 of their official program!!!

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      23 days ago

      I was unable to find any mention of it in the 2024 platform. But then they didn’t even have time to change the names in it. So I’m not sure what, if anything, it actually signifies.

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      24 days ago

      Her acceptance speech was bog standard for a democratic nominee, she played to both conservatives and progressives. Don’t act like she’s suddenly now a conservative because she pandered to the military and veterans.

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          24 days ago

          because the campaign knows any relatively sane person is already not voting for trump. the campaign is try to pull in a few of the “stupid” / “distracted” / “both sides bad” / “only voted republican before but they are weird now” people.

          we wont really know anything about a harris administration until she starts selecting appointments. so far her VP selection is tentatively 'opefull.

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          24 days ago

          The ticket is pandering to progressives as well, there’s no way in hell Tim Walz would be going up there and saying Healthcare and Housing are human rights otherwise.