• yarr@feddit.nl
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    5 days ago

    OH YEAH? Then why does it say “In God We Trust” on our money? GOTCHA!!!

  • WoodScientist@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    If America were a Christian nation, we would tie every health insurance CEO to a boulder, and cast them into the Sea.

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    I love that Thomas Paine was a founding father. He showed up on the run from the monarchy, tried to make us more woke and get us to be more like the iriquois confederacy, told us to be nicer to indigenous and black people, then fucked off because we clearly weren’t serious about the freedom and “all men are created equal” things.

    Thomas Paine is one of the few people alongside Benjamin Franklin that your history teacher severely undersold to you

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    6 days ago

    While this is accurate information, I do not care at all what kind of country a bunch of slaveholders wanted. People who committed treason against King George III are not whom I should look to for patriotism.

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        4 days ago

        That I hate everything about the “Founding Fathers”. I mention treason in order to remind patriotic Americans that those guys weren’t heroes and that they themselves were the opposite of patriotic.

        And sure, it’s great to be monotheistically secular and in the 18th century, but I don’t care what kind of country these specific slaveholding landowners wanted for me now.

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            They were all “we need to not prefer any particular religion”, but were so ignorant of the world’s religions—and irreligion—that what they actually settled on was deism.

            Deism is ultra progressive for an 18th-century government, but in using a one-god religion as part of the basis for their Declaration of Independence from George III means being non-sectarian was neither Hindu (more than one god) or non-theistic (less than), but rather monotheistic.

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    Look I agree in principle but let’s not pretend the first settlers were fleeing religious persecution. They set up governments that killed people for being witches. They were more extreme than other Christians in Europe, not less.

    And that’s a huge reason freedom of religion is rule number 1. If it wasn’t then the Catholics and 5 different kinds of Protestants would have all set up their own countries.

  • adarza@lemmy.ca
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    6 days ago

    hardly anyone notices that freedom from religion comes first.

  • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 days ago

    No “Official Language” either.

    If spanish speaking population take over, we could make spanish the de facto language.

    Or… if you are looking for a solution to the issue of pronouns, you can always use ahem Chinese!

    Chinese is best language, he or she, its both “他” (pronounced tā). Pronoun crisis resolved! Culture war is peacefully concluded!

    (Disclaimer: I have Chinese Ancestry, but I’m totally not biased… 😉)

    Edit: Sorry for going kinda off topic, but like… think about it. No more pronoun conflicts! What a utopia!