• qevlarr@lemmy.world
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    “Dutch authorities call” says more about the political climate than anything else. Here’s a 17 year old Geert Wilders spending his gap year in an Israeli mosjav on the West Bank - a transformative experience, which explains his hatred for Muslims and Islam

    Hoe zijn verblijf in Israël Geert Wilders gevormd heeft - https://nos.nl/l/2230019

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    Tensions had been rising in the lead up to Thursday night’s match with multiple social media videos showing Maccabi fans chanting anti-Arab slurs, praising Israeli military attacks in Gaza and yelling “f**k the Arabs.” Other videos apparently filmed in Amsterdam show men ripping Palestinian flags off buildings. It is unclear when those videos were filmed.

    You are asking for a beating, regardless of you being Israeli or not, when yelling stuff like that.

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      This is hilariously hypocritical.

      Pro-Hamas mobs have been marching on our streets and occupying our college campuses for over a year, screaming genocidal chants and telling Jews to go back to Poland. Our businesses and synagogues have been vandalized, firebombed, and shot at. But now all of a sudden one group of unruly soccer fans and you’re all, “Well, they were saying bad stuff, they got what’s coming to them.”

      By the way, this was a planned and coordinated attack. Not a spontaneous angry response. https://x.com/stop_jew_hate/status/1854881566553411612

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        And these “pro-Hamas mobs”. Are they in the room with us right now?

        Edit: wow. The “evidence” is even more obviously doctored, than I anticipated.

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          I haven’t been on Lemmy very long, but it’s become painfully clear this site is just an echo chamber for Marxists and anti-Zionists.

          LOL at “pro Hamas mobs” - people who dress up like Hamas, celebrate 10/7, call to globalize the intifada (which is exactly what happened in Amsterdam), and openly express sympathy for Hamas ARE PRO-HAMAS.

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            LOL at “pro Hamas mobs” - people who dress up like Hamas, celebrate 10/7, call to globalize the intifada (which is exactly what happened in Amsterdam), and openly express sympathy for Hamas ARE PRO-HAMAS.

            I’m sure you have sources for all that bullshit. /s

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              8 days ago

              Have you been living in a Hamas tunnel for the past year?

              I could spend hours filling this sub with examples. I’m not going to play your game though.

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                Ah, the “google it yourself” defense. Sorry, I’m still looking for the supposed cripplings covid vaccines caused in infants my weird uncle told me about. /s

                The only way your claims make any sense at all is if you seriously buy the genocidal line that every Palestinian is Hamas. I’ve sure noticed a lot of solidarity for Palestine in the last year. But no puplic displays of support for Hamas.

                You also can’t give sources of people celebrating 10/7, can you? That shouldn’t be too hard to find, should it?

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        7 days ago

        As a question, are you just labelling everyone who finds the behavior of the Israeli government/war cabinet despicable as “pro-Hamas”?

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          No, people who celebrate terrorism and call for globalized intifada are “pro-Hamas”

          This isn’t rocket science here. Can you show me a single Palestinian rally where there was anything resembling peaceful “criticism of Israel?”

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            There are good reasons to demonstrate against the actions of the Israeli government. There is also a lot of antisemitism both in the Arabic and the Western world. I also have no doubt that both camps at times organize together, especially when organizers are careless. But just going out and stating that there have never been peaceful, critical demonstrations which don’t grab headlines is imo a bit much. (Ftr, you won’t be able to reply here.)

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    The way corporate media have spun this immediately as some sort of anti Semitic pogrom is wild. Israelis can come up with any shit and it is immediately accepted as fact. See also: babies in ovens, mass rapes and Hamas nerve centres under hospitals.