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    Interesting :

    20,000 Nazi attendees inside.

    100,000 antifa coutnter-protesters oustide.

    2,300 police outside and inside.

    The Bellamy Salute was used by schoolkids in The Pledge of Allegiance until 1942(basically the Nazi salute).

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      And the pledge of allegiance was invented by a desperate grifter that needed to sell excess flag inventory. He targeted school classrooms. Pledge also didn’t originally have the “God” part either. All true, will try to add link to a good video if I can find

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        Frankly, the “under god” part kinda fucks up the flow of it.

        “I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all”

        When you cut out the “under god”, it becomes clear that the idea of the pledge is that America is about the unity between the states and its myriad peoples. Throwing “under god” in there was a cynical Cold War propaganda tactic.

        All that said, it’s a weird ritual regardless.

        And people insist America isn’t full of its own propaganda. We’re so high on our own supply we can’t agree on basic facts about reality anymore whenever they clash with American nationalistic narcissism.

        Sorry for writing so much, apparently I needed to let that rant out.

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    This primer in the edit is really good. Is there a way to ensure it is available long term?

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      Steal it. Post it in comments that need a reminder. Spread it around.

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      And KISS played their last show there. It’s got a lot of history.

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            He’s not. They’re trying to link the fact that Trump held a rally at MSG and Hitler held one there, therefore, Trump is a Nazi. But that’s stupid, because Bill Clinton held a political rally there when he was running too. So did RFK. So did many Democrat president candidates.

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              No, they’re not basing it on the fact that trump had an event there, but that it was almost indistinguishable from a Nazi rally by its topics and demeanor.

              They’re saying that trump is a Nazi because of the Nazi slogans he repeats.

              They’re saying it wasn’t the first Nazi rally, because Nazis had one before there.

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                It wasn’t. At all.

                He’s not repeating Nazi slogans.

                And I just found out it’s not even the same building. It’s location has moved twice. It’s such a lame stretch to try and link the two. It’s sad

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              Hitler did not hold one there. The American Bund / Friends of New Germany did, which had little if any real connection to the Nazi Party of Germany besides similar ideals.

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                  Actually the American Nazy Party never did either. The German American Bund and the Friends of New Germany are not political parties and are more like social clubs. A Moose Lodge for American Nazis.

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              I think they’re saying Trump is a nazi because all the fascist rhetoric that keeps coming out of him and his associates. The rally was just… extra spectacle.

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                There is no fascist rhetoric coming from trump or those hes adding to his transition team.