(I’ve edited the question to be more coherent) So how is any of this supposed to work if no state (no ruling authority) can exist? Say maintaining infrastructure in areas where no natural resources, industry for refining or skilled labor for extracting, refining and maintaining naturally exist? I don’t believe that any human society can function without some level of authority (thinking legality in disputes and such) and in order to provide everything needed for infrastructure maintenance some authority must tell others where to go with everything.
I understand being vary of needless blindness when it comes to (existing) regimes and their atrocities. But there seem to be people in the comments arguing that “stateless” means “no authority”, which I think would never work, and thus in their mind supporting any existing socialist society is wrong because we are supposed to work towards the stateless one. But how can such state come to be when there are people more interested in infighting and such, instead of helping the ones existing? Not to mention imperialists can easily hijack this infighting further hindering any progress.
Don’t you get it? The best way to stateless, moneyless, classless society is by creating totalitarian capitalistic empires!
The working class is too dumb to do revolution on their own. That’s why my vanguard party is here to teach them in ways that just happen to put me on top.
Yeah, they just need to be controlled and exploited in a way that’s like 15% less evil, and one third of that needs to be me and my friends getting all the gold toilets.
Critical support to Mussolini for nationalizing the economy/means of production (it’s called socialism liberal you wouldn’t get it)
I honestly can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic. I really hope so tho!
Yeah, it’s a play on the fact that modern day China and its “socialist qualities” that ML’s use to claim the country is socialist are remarkably similar if not identical to how fascist Italy worked.
Same! im kind of crushing on them rn.
It is kind of fascinating how much they fail to understand the difference.
To be fair this kind of “thinking” goes all the way back to the Bolsheviks convincing themselves they’re the party of the proletariat even as they brought back bourgeoi management of factories and busted strikes. They’re just following in the footsteps of their great leaders.
To be fair to them, they were put in a state of “siege communism” pretty much from the get go. It’s a hard thing to think of solutions to for any country, especially while the US is being the US
Almost like most of them don’t actually believe in anything and are just trying to be edgy, then fit with their friend group.
But that would be absurd.
The other side of the coin from "an"caps.
I want commons for everyone
Amen
Well thats communism, sorry, gulag for you.
They call us radical liberals for wanting to dismantle the chains of oppression and leave them dismantled. It would be impressive if it wasn’t so stupid.
So ML wants State-Capitalism. Hey is there like an international worker-owned ISP ?
The world needs one
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